SoCal Coddiwompling... (The CABDR on a vintage Yamaha)

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Day Trippin'' started by black 8, Jul 12, 2017.

  1. Zubb

    Zubb he went that-a-way...

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    Your fuel line 'mod' and the pipe really cleans up the look. Makes me miss the ol' 250 I had briefly in high school. You've done a great job of revitalizing this bike!
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  2. black 8

    black 8 coddiwompling motographer

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    Thanks Kelly... just tryin' to stop the rust and corrosion so this little 250 gives me years of ear-to-ear grins out on the trail...
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  3. okiegtrider

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    And so nicely done and documented. Well done sir. :clap
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  4. black 8

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    ~ 20 Oct 2019

    XT check ride...

    With all the wrenching that I've been doing on the XT, I needed to verify that it actually runs... specially off-road. I need to see where the sweet spot is speed wise off-road since I don't have a tachometer. I also need to see what type of range I can get with the stock 2.11 gal tank. I've read that the 1981 Yamaha XT250 can average about 70 mpg and I need to test this theory... I brought along two 1 liter MSR fuel bottles when the tank kicks into reserve. Today seemed like a good day as any so off I went...

    My test route would take me to areas that I've never ridden before like the Nate Harrison Grade leading up to Palomar Mountain and Cottonwood Spring just shy of Borrego Springs. There are sand washes at Cottonwood Spring and I wanted to see the difference between a 262 lb dual sport vs my old 450 lb KLR...

    "Nate Harrison is one of San Diego County’s legendary pioneers. Fabled stories abound about this former enslaved African- American from the South who lived high up the southwest side of Palomar Mountain into the early 1900s. There are numerous quaint tales of his rugged frontier life. He allegedly added lizards to his coffee grinds for extra flavor and regularly grappled with mountain lions."
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    the view from Nate Harrison Road looking down with Rincon on the left and Pauma Valley to the right....
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    It took me a while to get used to the XT's sweet spot and once I knew what gear to use in climbing Nate Harrison Road, I was throttling out of the corners to pick up some speed going uphill... 3.jpg

    Nate Harrison Road starts out paved but as you climb up, it turns to dirt and gravel... once you near the top and reach Palomar State Park it becomes paved again...
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  5. black 8

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    Once I got to the top of Palomar Mountain, I paused to check on the bike just to make sure I wasn't leaking any oil from the work I did on the engine... :thumb she was GTG... I did note that the chain was slightly loose, the brakes needs to be adjusted tighter, and the gear shift lever needs to be adjusted to accommodate my boots... all easy peasy and I can knock those out when I get back home...

    a view from East Grade Road just up the road from Mother's Kitchen...

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    that's South Grade Road weaving back and forth... it was a beautiful day and riders were all over Palomar Mountain... I could hear the sports bike guys roaring up and down while I snapped this photo...
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    a shot of Warner Springs on the left with Lake Henshaw to the right on my way down East Grade Road... from here my next stop was Montezuma Valley Road to hit the trail at Cottonwood Spring...
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    After I came down Palomar Mountain, I wanted to head out towards Borrego Springs to go after some sand washes. I recalled @sealsam spoke of Borrego Days so I just stopped short of Borrego Springs... I had previously been to Cottonwood Spring with the Enduro but I didn't get too far into the trail since she's a heavy gal. This time I wanted to head deeper into the trail with the XT and found sand washes galore. While doing my research on the CABDR, I watched videos of Section 1 and how riders warned of the deep sand by Indian Pass... the videos I watched were mixed; some riders were having a blast in the sand, others were struggling, and one even burned up their clutch... I was getting apprehensive about doing Section 1... So the only way too get it out of my system was to go play in some sand.

    this is what I was after... the sand washes at Cottonwood Spring...
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    After it was all said and done... HELL YEAH! The little XT just rolled over the sand like it was nothing :ricky... Where previously I would have struggled with my heavier bikes, I was amazed at how well the XT did in the sand... probably the light weight at 262 lbs and the Bridgestone Battlaxe Adventurecross AX41s for traction. At least I have a better grasp of what to expect and I'm not as intimidated riding on soft sand. Oh and I made my first 180 pivot from a dead stop to turn the XT around... :rayof it wasn't pretty but I got it done. By this time the trip meter was reading 90 miles so I started to head back towards the La Jolla Trading Post just in case. No sooner than I crested the hill at Ranchita, the XT started puttering and died on me... I pulled over and read the trip meter at 98 miles, a quick guesstimation means I was getting about 65'ish mpg with varying terrain and a head wind. I'm guessing I have a .5 gal reserve so in theory I should be able to go another 30 miles until the bike completely dies. I switched to reserve and kicked her back up and I was Oscar Mike again. I decided to test my theory by pulling over at a trailhead where hikers parked their cars. I threw in the 2 liter (.52 gal) bottles of gas I had and that should keep me going for about 30 mile before I need to switch back to the reserve tank again. Just as I was kicking the bike over again I see a BMW GSA roll by and he must have thought I needed help, I gave him a thumbs up to say that I was OK and he stopped anyway and it was @Zubb... he recognized the bike and wanted to say hello and we caught up for a few minutes. He just completed a big bike off-road session with his buddy, Jonathan, and they were on the way home. It was good to see Kelly out with his GSA... So back on the road I go and I'm keeping an eye on the trip meter and low and behold the XT dies again at 126 miles... so I switch to the reserve again and I should be able to go another 28 miles before it completely dies...
  6. black 8

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    I make it to La Jolla Trading post and I'm still curious about what's left in my gas tank. I decided to buy $2.00 of gas to fill up my two 1 liter bottles just in case the XT completely dies on me. I wanted to push the XT to see how far it could take me. The reason I'm doing this is because I'm trying to figure out my fuel range. The longest section of the CABDR is 178 miles (Section 5 & 6 combined) that's from Furnace Creek, Titus Canyon, The Race Track, and out to Lone Pine. Which means I'll have to take a 1 gal container with me instead of just 2 liters...

    My next stop is Pala Casino to refuel before making it home... I got there no problem and the trip meter read 142 miles, at least I know what kind of real world fuel mileage I'll be getting.

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    here's a pic for you @sealsam...
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    My confidence level that this 38 year old Yamaha XT250 can actually make the CABDR keeps getting better and better every time I take her out. To think that two weeks ago she was rotting away in some garage and now she's getting ready for the CABDR... In the next few days I'll be taking her out multiple times to run some carburetor cleaner in the gas to help get rid of gummed up residue on the jets and other parts... by then the carb rebuild kit should be here so I can take it apart for a thorough cleaning... Still waiting on some parts to arrive... some heat shield material I'll be putting on the back of the OS base so it doesn't burn and a spanner wrench to take apart the steering head for a lube job... Mrs. B8 has given me the green light to go... and I feel that she's up to the task (post Mom passing) of holding the fort down, so I'm planning to run the CABDR at the end of the month. More on that later...

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  7. Zubb

    Zubb he went that-a-way...

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    Great report Rudy. I saw that 250 in that parking area and thought ‘hey that’s gotta be Rudy’. Glad I turned around and got to chat with you. That bike looks fantastic. It just makes you want to climb on and relive your high school years again (at least for me).

    During the off road skills class we talked a lot about the CABDR . Our 2 instructors had done it on GS’s and said it was doable on loaded big bikes. However next time they will take skinny bikes and stay at Motels because the sand is a helluva lot of hard work. . Coming from two of the best R1200 GS riders in the country (Tom is a 2018 GSTrophy winner), I will follow their advice and find a smaller bike for the trip.

    So, are you going to camp the BDR or motel it?
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  8. klaviator

    klaviator Long timer Supporter

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    This is cool in so many ways. First, a lot of people restore vintage bikes and then ride them to bike nights and vintage bike shows. You are really riding the bike the way it was meant to be ridden. Second, It's great seeing the area from the dirt roads. When I lived there I was street only but often wondered about the dirt roads. Third, it's always cool running into another inmate out in the middle of nowhere.

    :clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap
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  9. black 8

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    I've been doing a lot of research and map study of the CABDR route lately and I found the below info on their FAQs section... Since the CABDR is practically in our backyard, I thought I'd try that one first and wouldn't you know it - the makers of the BDR rate it as their most difficult for us mere mortals... That's why I found myself a lightweight D/S to use primarily for playing in the dirt and off road exploration.

    Yes I'll be camping. Part of my research was locating campgrounds at or near the CABDR. It just save me money for other endeavors... plus I like camping out unless it's raining cats and dogs.




    Rating the Routes by Difficulty

    We get a lot of requests to provide difficulty ratings. The difficulty of a route can change from day to day depending on weather, changes in the road conditions and road damage caused by a variety of forces including wind, storms, flooding, snow, logging, forest fires and more. The difficulty experienced by an individual also depends on their off-road skills, level of fitness, bike size and amount of weight carried on the bike. For these reasons we can’t provide a rating system like a ski resort. We can help you a bit by ranking the existing BDR’s from most difficult to least difficult. Here is the list: CA, AZ, UT, CO, WA, NM, ID, MA. So CABDR South is the most difficult especially if you ride the expert sections and Mid Atlantic BDR is the easiest in general terms. Although MABDR is the easiest there are still a few challenging rocky sections and the several water crossings that can get very difficult if the water is high. Also mud can be very challenging if it rains heavily. We hope this helps you in your planning. Be sure to also review the FAQ’s for each route prior to planning your trip.
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  10. black 8

    black 8 coddiwompling motographer

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    I so wanted to take the Monkey on the CABDR... the parts I ordered are still in the shipment void somewhere... WTF??? I ordered those parts over a month ago AND still has an estimated deliver NLT 20 Dec... I've already contacted the seller and their response was; it's enroute... I can only blame myself for not looking at the estimated delivery, I'm just hoping that it shows up at the door sooner than later.

    Who knows... when I do finally get the parts in, I may take it on a BDR or out to DV...

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  11. Zubb

    Zubb he went that-a-way...

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    Hey Rudy, was just admiring your Yammy again . . . . do you think those rear turn signals will survive the CABDR? Do you have plans to remove/mod them for the endless miles of kitty litter?
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    Yeah, I know what you mean about those turn signals. When I first looked at 'em I thought they were ugly as hell... but they've kinda grown on me...

    I'll keep 'em until the rubber dry rots or they get torn off on the trail somewhere...
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  13. Zubb

    Zubb he went that-a-way...

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    If it were mine, I think I'd remove them before they get crushed, and put on something more SoCal sand survivable. Might be hard to find OEM replacements if you ever decide that's important to you.
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    Someday maybe Kelly when I turn the XT into a retro Scrambler but for now it'll be my dirt machine...
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    Wow!!!! I fell behind on your thread Rudy but congrats X 2 on the XT and The Monkey! Honestly, your thread is is what I aspire to do in my own threads regarding the quality of pictures and narrative! Outstanding sir!

    Eric
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    Thanks Eric...

    For me it's just everyday occurrences that I jot done. As previously stated more of a record for myself so when I'm finally done riding, I can read about my adventures and relive them again...

    cheers... :beer
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    Hey Rudy, Just a comment about the XT subframe strength, I was reading a report about 250 KLX subframe not well built to carry much ( They break) so I wondered if you looked at yours and will it carry a load?
    Also, exactly where is Cottonwood Springs, I thought I knew of ever dirt trail there was around!! thanks
    OK I found Cottonwood, in the Culp Valley, love that place. Jasper trail is there and the part going south has a pretty steep hill down, might be a test for some of the hard stuff on the CAB
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  18. black 8

    black 8 coddiwompling motographer

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    I remember reading the maximum weight but I can't seem to find it... one thing though, the XT has provisions for passenger foot pegs so I know it can carry at least two passengers...

    I won't be carrying much anyway... I'm going ultra light for the CABDR...

    Yup that's the place in Culp Valley... I saw that entrance to Jasper trail when I was coming back. I may have to go out there and check it out...
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  19. rodrigzj

    rodrigzj Been here awhile

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    I just picked up a 2010 KLX250 with some broken upper and lower triple trees from my neighbor.
    Hopefully I can get it put together soon and ride it.
    Love all the work you have done on your bike.
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