Solid vintage bike

Discussion in 'Trials' started by heffergm, Sep 3, 2018.

  1. heffergm

    heffergm Long timer

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    So if you had your choice of bikes to compete on in the vintage class with (twin shock, air cooled, no disc brakes), what would you pick?
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  2. 2whlrcr

    2whlrcr gooligan

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    Mudlark
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  3. lineaway

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    Fantic 240
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  4. motobene

    motobene Motoing for 46 years

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    Whichever one isn't a total pile of junk to start with. Seriously!

    Picking a specific brand/model, unless you want to pay for one already restored, could make it hard to find one that wasn't stored long term out in the back 40, out with its dead-appliance friends :-) You know, half archaeology with rotted seat... bunch if missing parts....
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  5. heffergm

    heffergm Long timer

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    Yeah, I'm assuming equivalent running condition.
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  6. Nodabs

    Nodabs Been here awhile

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  7. lamotovita

    lamotovita DAMN SNOWBIRD!

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  8. SherpaT

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    Cota 348 for sentimental reasons.
    TLR250 (wish I could find one for sale in US!).
    SWM TL320.
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  9. 2whlrcr

    2whlrcr gooligan

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    Hmm, Sherpa T, didn't recommend a Sherpa T?
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  10. tomatoe333

    tomatoe333 Long timer

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    Limiting to twin shock:

    In terms of parts availability, Yamaha TY175 or 250. Plenty of them out there.

    In terms of handling? Beta TR32/33 or similar era Fantic. The old Beta chassis turns well.

    If you want to haul two bikes to every event and clean house in Senior B? SWM 320.
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  11. lamotovita

    lamotovita DAMN SNOWBIRD!

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    Might want to count the shocks on those Betas.
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  12. SherpaT

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    :) No, I don't think the Sherpa's are well suited for the current style vintage sections. Some guys do really well with them, but I doubt someone used to a modern bike, would like a Sherpa.
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  13. Gordo83

    Gordo83 Been here awhile

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    Mudlark. The bike that placed 3rd in the top ten worst dirt bikes ever made!

    From the article:

    "John called it the Penton Trials, but not even Batman could have ridden it in a trials event. There was no power at all, the gearbox was spaced oddly and it wouldn't turn without plowing the front end. So, in desperation, John renamed it the Mud Lark, a sort of all-purpose play machine. In fact, it was a no-purchase dirt bike, and will go down in history as one of the few bad business decisions ever made by savvy John Penton."

    It's the season for costumes. I should go pick up a Batman suit!
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  14. 2whlrcr

    2whlrcr gooligan

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    That's why I would want one!
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  15. PMK

    PMK Been here awhile

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    I suspect much of the answer is first needing to know what skill level. One thing about my 1973 OSSA MAR that is unnerving is the brakes. Overall though, it is fun and seems to work well for me.

    After watching an old movie of Mick climbing a 6 foot vertical rockface on an old bike back in the day, it was obvious the bike is better than me.

    Regardless, those MAJESTY TYs are very cool.
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  16. Gordo83

    Gordo83 Been here awhile

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    Heff's skill level is right up there with the best of them, and he could pretty much ride any bike. Getting used to the drum brakes versus his modern brakes would be one thing that would take him a little time to get used to.
    I agree with the Majesty TY's as a first choice for sure!
    Majesty.jpg

    As far as the MAR goes, I had one and liked it a lot. Wish I didn't sell it. The only thing I didn't like was how high the pegs were. I'm sure that could have been rectified pretty easily though
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  17. lineaway

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    The last time we tested a like new MAR against a well prepared Majesty, the Ossa won out. Sure the Yamaha had better brakes, but the Ossa has a better motor.
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  18. 2whlrcr

    2whlrcr gooligan

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    Nice photo of a Mudlark in the latest AMA rag.
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  19. PMK

    PMK Been here awhile

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    I enjoy the entire video, but fast forward to 11:50, simple affirming my MAR is more bike than I am as a rider.

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  20. wheelieman14

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    Awesome video of Mick Andrews Trials School in Massachusetts. Interesting to see Bob Hogan finishing 3rd place in Expert Class and Len Thompson 1st place in Lightweight Class. It's been a while since Bob Hogan competed in New England Trials Association; but Len Thompson now lives in PA and still rides a few NETA Events each year.
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