South American Adventure - 2 up on a R100GS

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by Flyingavanti, Sep 1, 2005.

  1. sandiegoland

    sandiegoland Adventure Boy®

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    Dale and Sandy. Just caught up after our absence... what a big 5 weeks! Hang gliding, health issues, and ripping mirrors off taxis!!

    I can't say much more than has been said... other than no matter how far you get on this trip the goal has been surpassed. It's a journey that you want in life. Not a finish line. I don't ever want you to "finish" for that matter...

    You've filled enough scrapbooks for a life time of trips on this one!!

    ... take a break, do some Baja, mix it up, come back to it... it's all good. Just keep riding and reporting!!

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  2. Flyingavanti

    Flyingavanti With the Redhead on Back!

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    Never thought about it like that! Hope we can get together for a 2 up ride when we return!

    We are now in Tiradentes at a BIG motorcycle meet! It is our first time to attend a big Rally like this. It has been fun!

    No internet shops, but talked the hotel into 5 minutes to make this post. Have to get off now.

    ANDRE - Got your message and will call during next hour!
  3. Miguel AL

    Miguel AL Always on the Run

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    Receita: Revenue. It is our IRS. They are the ones who collect taxes, including import/export taxes.

    Your bike can only be legally in Brazil as long as you are legally here. You got your Visa extension, and it will be necessary to present it when you go to extend your bike's permit. When you leave Brazil, you will need to take the bike with you.

    The Receita Federal building in São Paulo is located downtown, and you can reach it by subway (Estação da Luz) or at Av. Paulista (Rua Augusta, 1582 - next to subway station: Consolação).

    I will be in Rio, working during the Pan American Games. It will be a pleasure to help you, including with legal issues, but I don't see too much of a solution here. You will need to take the bike with you, and bring it back next year. If you want to contact me, just PM.

    Miguel
  4. salcar

    salcar Riding 4 Health

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    Hi Dale,
    WorldRider said to hijack your thread too :D
    Maybe one of your followers can help Brennan.
    Brennan had an accident yesterday after an old man cut his way with a truck on the panamerican highway right 20 km from the costa rica border. Brennan's bike is not ridable any more and he needs $upport to get it to panama city and to fix it. I'm here with him figuring out what to do since we are both cash poor... the bike was confiscated by the cops and tomorrow he has to go to court. i'll go with him so i can help with my spanish. these whole ordeal has been a nightmare with suppose friends trying to get cash out of us for 'favors'... Brennan is hurting but nothing broken any help in the form of moral support, cash and spare parts is greatly appreciated.
    He is riding to raise money for parkinson's diseases and so far has raised 50k for research. now he needs some help for his ride...
    Thank you!

    PS this is Brennan's paypal account:
    brennandates at hotmail dot com

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  5. DiasDePlaya

    DiasDePlaya Been here awhile

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    Dale,

    How is Sandy?
    Where you both are now?
    What you will do with the bike?
    When you will fly home?

    Long days without news!
  6. OldManDragon

    OldManDragon Adventurer

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    Wishing the best for both of you,
    Hoping everything is OK and going your way,
    but wondering how you are... ?
  7. Redhead on the Back

    Redhead on the Back Are we there yet?

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    Hello guys...
    We are now back home after worst flying experience ever. We got to the airport at 4:00 pm on the 3rd of July for a 10:45 pm departure. The line was 300 yards long. After 2 1/2 hours, we got to the counter and we were told it was the wrong line and took us to another line. After another 1 1/2 hours in that line, we were told it was the wrong line. There is no need to "type" what my thoughts were! Escorted to another line by a TAM employee and waited another 1/2 hour. Told the same thing. We finally got to the counter at 9:00 pm and then TAM told us there were no seats left! I can't type my reaction here, because my grandson reads ADVRider! They said they would have to book us for tomorrow. I said I was standing right there until I got on the flight! I also requested to talk to management. I was told there was a line for that. They closed the window and the lady started up another computer! I blocked the window until 10:30 pm when they finally gave us tickets for the 10:45pm flight!

    Our problems were just starting!

    The flight was delay until 11:45 pm due to mechanical problems. No big deal. What is an hour, after already being at the airport for 8 hours. At 12:00 we were told that it was going to leave at 1:30 am from another gate. I have never seen 100 people this mad. At 1:30 am, the TAM employee stated that the airplane was fixed and was taxing to another gate. It was a mass movement of all the passengers.

    1:30 am was changed to 5:00 am. There were no police and it was 50 people in near riot at the counter with 5 TAM employees lying to everbody, again and again (verified by the pilot later).

    At 5:00 am we are told that the aircraft was not fixable and that we would be on a airplane which was flying in from Paris. Another LIE! There was no plane scheduled from Paris. They stated that the plane would be ready at 7:00 am. We finally board a plane which had been sitting there all night!!!!!

    We leave at 7:30 am on July 4th (15 1/2 hours after arriving at the airport). Our connection in Miami has already departed! So we land in Miami on JULY 4TH looking for a NEW flight, and everybody in the world is returning to California from Orlando, Burmuda, Aruba after their July 4th weekend.

    We finally get home at 1:00 am on July 5th. 37 hours thanks to TAM! I will NEVER flying them again. I spoke with the pilots and was told that all the stories were lies to 'Save Money". They are required to put you in a hotel and give you $300 reales if the flight is delayed more than 4 hours, so to save money they move you around the airport all night long!

    TAM AIRLINE SUCKS!

    The bike was also shipped to Los Angles. I will try and pick it up today. Sandy is doing fine (another doctors appointment today).

    Missing South America "Big Time". We are meeting friends in Beverly Hills tonight at the "Fogo de Chao" restaurant, which we ate at in Sao Paulo and Belo, Brazil!

    Sorry for the delay in pictures, but I had bags of mail and bills to plow through, weeds to remove, sprinklers to repair and a million other things (thing can get behind when you are gone for 5 months).

    We had a great time in Tiradentes at the motorcycle meet. It will probably be next week before I can get the pictures posted, but I WILL!

    I am already trying to figure out how and when I can return to Brazil. Money is tight after the last 5 months in Brazil. We stayed in much nicer place then during the first part of the trip. I wanted Sandy to enjoy it as much as possible. But I do know "If there is a will, there is a way"!

    Thanks so much for asking about us..... you are all true friends....

    PS sorry... I just noticed that the home computer was signed in under Sandy's name!
  8. k7

    k7 Almost retired....tick..tick..tick..

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    If it weren't so sad, it'd be funny - that's the typcial situation in Brazil and it impacts domestic travelers more than international travelers in most cases.

    Two or three years ago, Varig was the dominate national carrier. Along with every other carrier in the world, they experienced severe financial issues to the point where most considered them unsafe.

    Once they declared bankrupcy, the system was severly impacted. Add to that the fact that the miliary controls the air traffic control system, the radio system that has failed more than once, a mid-air collision between TAM and a private US-owned jet, TAM purchasing Varig assets, TAM having extreme operational difficulites (esp. during the holiday season last year), the federal police going on strike (who controls passports, entry, exit, etc) and you'll know why air travel in Brazil is a huge adventure.

    About the only safe bet is international travel where you land and depart out of GRU on an international carrier.

    Glad you're home - hate to see the adventure end. Guess I'll have to plan one of my own. With a couple of buddies. :evil
  9. salcar

    salcar Riding 4 Health

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    Hi Dale! glad to hear you made it back to the states in one piece. i can relate to your experience taking me 37 hours to fly from nicaragua to italy with Iberia a few years back - it SUCKS! i'm hoping to come to cali in the next month or so... waiting to get my US visa and figure out my next move. i've been on the road 11 months so you can imagine all the stuff that need to catch up with :D
  10. Zen Slug

    Zen Slug Spineless Adventurer

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    welcome home, dale and sandy!:clap



    Dale,

    Did you see the 950 ride that surfphoto (more recently known as "Walker Sky Ranch" is putting together?
  11. Lion BR

    Lion BR I'd rather be riding

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    I MISS VARIG!!!
    Which, some say, failed in part by TAM's lobbyists' work in stopping government from paying back VARIG's wrongful tax surcharges (TAM has "political" connections). I always avoid flying TAM.
    Cesar
  12. sandiegoland

    sandiegoland Adventure Boy®

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    Oh man... this is like the great rides we go on... then our last few hours are cutting through LA freeways in traffic... a big downer!! :cry

    Forget the miserable airport and the plane ride -- totally doesn't count!!
    Attempting to erase all non-motorcycle related incidents from memory now... :lol3

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    Ahhhhh... much better!! :ricky


    Welcome Home!! (for now...)
  13. funhouse

    funhouse Overdue

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    I'm new to AdvRider and just found your story.......I've got nearly every issue of CycleWorld and Cycle in my office, have written for many of the magazines on a freelance basis and have to say the editors of the printed page should be scared shitless.........your photography, writing, and the scope of your story can never be matched on the printed page.....you are the future of adventure journalism......thank you for taking the time and expending the effort to share the story.....and I'm only up to page 10! Bruce
  14. Cara Pálida

    Cara Pálida Been here awhile

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    Olá Dale!

    Yes I know: TAM AIRLINE SUCKS!

    But, bad news!

    "17/07/2007 - 19h35
    Avião da TAM perde controle e atinge depósito; aeroporto de Congonha fecha

    Um avião da TAM com passageiros a bordo perdeu o controle na noite desta terça-feira, durante manobras na pista do aeroporto de Congonhas (zona sul de São Paulo), e bateu contra um depósito da empresa que fica do lado oposto, na avenida Washington Luiz, causando um incêndio de grandes proporções.

    A Infraero (estatal que administra os aeroportos do país) suspendeu todos os vôos e decolagens. O Corpo de Bombeiros está no local tentando retirar pessoas de dentro do prédio e do avião e controlar as chamas.

    Segundo informações da Globo, o avião, que partiu de Porto Alegre, levava 170 passageiros. Ainda não há informações sobre possíveis vítimas. Procurada pela Folha Online, a TAM disse que ainda apura as causas do acidente e se manifestará, por meio de nota, mais tarde.

    Por conta do acidente, a avenida Washington Luiz está interditada, segundo informou CET (Companhia de Engenharia de Tráfego). A lentidão se reflete nas avenidas 23 de Maio e Rubem Berta.

    O analista de suporte técnico de informática da Varig Levi Lourenço estava saindo do trabalho quando ouviu o barulho do avião caindo. Como não conseguiu ver o acidente, pensou se tratar de um teste de turbina, como ocorre normalmente no prédio em que trabalha.

    Segundo Levi, o avião da TAM tentou aterrissar na pista principal do aeroporto, derrapou e atravessou a avenida Washington Luís, próxima à rua Otávio Tarquínio. "Como não conseguiu pousar, o avião atingiu o prédio do serviço de carga da TAM, a TAM Express", disse.
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    more http://www.folha.uol.com.br/ sorry, is in português.

    In short: an Arbus A320 from TAM, with 176 passengers, crashed against the own building of the companie at São Paulo (it is near the airport).
    Expected non survivers. :cry
    It's bad, because the fly was Porto Alegre to São Paulo and I hope, honestly, that non friends on it!


    So Dale, the confusion who you and Sandy had aproached maybe .... was an indication of what was on the horizon! :eek1

    Abraços,
    PGF
  15. Lion BR

    Lion BR I'd rather be riding

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    TAM really sucks. And INFRAERO also sucks. And political infiltration on the airline industry, which includes airport management, flight and airline regulations, air traffic, and special benefits to certain privileged airlines (read TAM) all suck even more. And with that, a person who was close to the family of my girlfriend just died on this flight. It really sucks.
    Later,
    Cesar


  16. Flyingavanti

    Flyingavanti With the Redhead on Back!

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    When I heard this yesterday, I thought about the many times we rode the BMW right across the end of the runway where the plane crashed into the building. :cry

    My thoughts, when we were in Brazil, was that that airport is:

    1) The airport is in the wrong spot :eek1
    2) It is too small for the bigger aircraft :eek1
    3) The bluff at the north end of the airport (down hill from the runway) is an accident waiting to happen. :eek1
    4) The runway has NO over run area! :eek1

    I am a pilot and the airport reminded me of the runway in Santa Monica and there is NO WAY they would allow aircraft of this size to land there.

    I wonder who the government will blame this time....?

    I want to call my friends in Sao Paulo and make sure they are alright, but I am worried about it because they fly frequently from Sao Paulo to P.A..

    Now that I wrote this, I need to make the call.

    (K7 sorry about the lost of your families friend)
  17. funhouse

    funhouse Overdue

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    How can you be so down on TAM Airlines after last nite's landing in San Paulo....what? you want 100%! Bruce
  18. funhouse

    funhouse Overdue

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    don't trust anything with a Berman gearbox...imo......
  19. funhouse

    funhouse Overdue

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    Two weeks of free time invested in the story of your adventures......best thing I've ever seen on the 'net and the photos are world-class.....my view of South America is vastly changed.....wouldn't do it with my wife nor would I want to be away from her (or home) long enough to do it myself but I can certainly see flying down for a sampler: the Chilian boat journey or Florianopolis come first to mind.....thanks for the effort! Bruce/Santa Barbara
  20. marcuscus

    marcuscus Marcuscus

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    It's not just TAM that sucks. It's the entire Brazilian aviation infrastructure.

    TAM crews are very good (and GOD the stewardesses look fantastic in those tight white tops) and the fleet is quite young.

    The airports (not the fault of TAM) are shite. The ATC (not the fault of TAM) is shite.

    TAM overall are better than GOL, VARIG and all the other Brazilian airlines combines.


    Travelling internally around Brazil is nearly but not quite as tedious as flying round the USA. That really does chew arse.