Speculation about the next generation Boxer GS

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by leafman60, Jul 11, 2019.

  1. leafman60

    leafman60 Long timer

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    What do you guys expect in the next make-over of the R12XXGSWC?

    1300cc? More gadgets? Electric hybrid option? Power windscreen? Electric pannier lids? What else can they do????

    Based on past practice, we should see a new GS in 2 or 3 years.

    Whaddaya think???

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  2. Carlisja

    Carlisja A wandering soul. Super Supporter

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    Dump the Garmin and integrate all the functions into the TFT
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  3. Lead Wrist

    Lead Wrist More Gelände less Straße

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    Looking at previous platforms and how long they've been around ie. '04/'05-'12/'13 R12 Air/Oilheads w 2 engines and 3 HP outputs, followed by '13/'14-'18 LC R12 followed by '19 LC R1250, it looks like we should see new GS/GSAs around 2022/23.

    Interesting times ahead for sure - we'll see what materializes...
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  4. ironsinker

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    I hope they can pull it off, but my opinion is BMW is way off still. No touch screen, people having connection issues with their BT, the speed limit info is hardly ever correct, no maps for location awareness. I guess they can change all that in one upgrade, but I doubt it. I love being able to touch the NAV 6 with any glove and make calls or whatever else.

    The 1250GS HP is a sporty looking model. I would like to see a model with a 17inch front wheel, lower, and more street focused. A huge supermoto I guess.
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  5. PaulBarton

    PaulBarton Long timer Supporter

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    Ummm, the 1200 was in use for 13 years on GS. Not a guarantee they are going to bump to 1300 in 3 years or less. The 1100 served 5 years, the 1150 another 5 (6 if you count the special edition which was really just using up the previous 5 years parts). The 1000 lasted as long as the 1200 (albeit most of those as an airhead rather than oilhead). The best way to measure is to see what they do with the rest of the platform -- the 1200 actually came out in 1997 with the 1200C but wasn't used on the GS for another 8 years when the "C" ended it's run.

    Most likely they will focus on refining the VVT that is the main upgrade with the 1250.
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  6. thynk3r

    thynk3r Adventurer

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    I'd like to see lighter. I have to believe they will continue into the 310+ space. Maybe a shiftcam V4. My oilhead is best bike ever made...so.
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  7. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

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    I’m thinking no telelever but inverted front forks.
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  8. b4thenite

    b4thenite Been here awhile

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    go back to air cool
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  9. antariusjp

    antariusjp Large Title Here

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    Right? Simplify things again. Lighten it up.
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  10. RustedNut

    RustedNut n00b

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    I don’t think the engine will change for a while. R&D costs to much and the current generation sales need to recover those costs first.
    I would like to see the NavVI disappear and in place have a secondary screen that works with the TFT to show GPS/music etc. If they could integrate Apple CarPlay that would be ideal.
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  11. bikeroz

    bikeroz Long timer

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    Touchscreen TFT with integrated GPS.
    Bluetooth to heads-up display in BMW helmets only.
    Remote TFT software only updates (not ECU).
    Collision avoidance.
    Airbags that pops out of stanchions.
    LED backlights on control buttons on handlebar.
    Heated seats.
    And last but not least... BOLD NEW colour scheme.
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  12. pistole

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    2013 : air to watercooled & new chassis.
    2018 : watercooled to VVT wc. Same chassis.
    2023 : VVT wc old chassis to VVT wc & new chassis.

    bmw evolves the GS platform. No quick changes (save for the steering damper in 13/14). They sell every unit they make so there's no rush to change.

    For the tft , touchscreen, keyless , etc : gimmick and eye-candy for the unwashed masses.
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  13. ShaftEd

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    Number 1 priority is to cut the weight. With the R1250GS Adv at just under 600 lbs fully gassed is unacceptable. It’s a stellar engine, but off road or even in the parking lot, it’s a pig!
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  14. LAFS

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    Well with the R18 at 1800 cc the boxer motor is going to be around in many flavors for a lot of years.

    I dont understand how a TFT can be all your information and your GPS also? If you are using GPS how do you see your other info? Also placement I like my GPS right in my face as it is, I dont want to look down. Now if they went to a second TFT on the bar like the GPS linked to the main TFT that would be cool. Updates will still an issue.

    I have no horse in the race as I will die with my 17.5. Money, age, and I am just really satisfied with what I have. It has been a lot of bikes over lot of years to get here and I am really content. Sure I lust after a 1250 but I also lust after a new WRX but wont do it.

    However as the trips become shorter and less if it comes to it, I would try to own that R18 at to me that is a beautiful bike. I bet it boogies right along with that size motor.

    Other then style I see no where for them to go? Size of motor, I think they are on top of all the electronic wizards, the chassis it not going to change as far as telalever and para lever as it is their signature, their mark.

    So body style, colors of which they need a new color picker, and motor size/tune.

    I hate to say it but they are putting a lot of bike models together and almost getting as bad as Harley with 5 bikes the same just a different configuration then the other. Not a bad thing to have choices.
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  15. Bikerboy108

    Bikerboy108 Pat from Jersey

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    Carbon fiber frame.... BIKE GO On A DIET.... then no need to upgrade engine
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  16. AZgman

    AZgman Addicted to curves

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    Offer an option of reduced engine size, seat height, and weight. I don't need more HP, I want better handling and more fuel range. I know, I am strange.
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  17. Sailorlite

    Sailorlite Long timer Supporter

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    A touring-biased GS with a larger fuel tank and maybe heated seat.
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  18. darmahman

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    900cc water-cooled flat twin 425 lb. GS900 with no electronics, no TfuckinFT screen, ie analog gauges, 85HP, $13,000 price tag.
    Oh wait, Guzzi already makes one but w/ the electronics I guess.
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  19. Dorian

    Dorian huge carbon footprint

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    Rebuildable final drive.
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  20. beemerphile

    beemerphile Unreconstructed Southerner Supporter

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    Some of you guys sound like you are speculating on the next Lexus SUV rather than an adventure bike.
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