Spoke vs. Cast Wheels on R1200GS

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by cug, Sep 12, 2010.

  1. cug

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    So, hypothetically - if I change from the Cross Spoke wheels to cast. What does that change for me? Positive as well as negative. Fire away ...

    Oh, and I normally don't go off pavement with the R. I prefer something lighter and cheaper for this.
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  2. ausfahrt

    ausfahrt mach schnell

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    Other opinions may differ on cast wheels but for me:
    Pros-
    lighter
    better looking
    easier to clean
    no longer worried about loosened spokes

    Cons-
    rim is not as strong

    I ride 98% slab so it made sense for me and I love the cast wheels on my GSA.

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  3. JustKip

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    Less unsprung weight means better traction/control on bumpy roads or uneven pavement, and a smoother ride.
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  4. RED CAT

    RED CAT Bumpy Backroader

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    On your riding style and conditions. I have cast but wish I had spoke cause I have dented my front rim several times on rough dirt roads. Doesn't take much sometimes. I would hope the spoke rims are alot stronger or more flexible for those dirt sections, about 25% of my riding. But if you are full time street sissy, the cast will do fine.
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  5. F.P.

    F.P. Clown who is sick

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    he, he, he....that's funny.
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  6. cug

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    As I mainly ride with my wife, I stay on roads about 99%. And for off-pavement riding I prefer the DR200 anyways.
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  7. ausfahrt

    ausfahrt mach schnell

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    Those are strong words.

    The full time street sissy brigade has your number. I gave it to them.:lol3
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  8. Texmoto1

    Texmoto1 Adventure Berzerker

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    After renting a GS on vacation that came with cast wheels vs the Spokes that are on my GS at home, I can honestly say: GET THE CAST WHEELS! GET THEM TWICE! The bike accelerates harder and rode smoother. After the rental and getting back on my bike, the difference was VERY noticable! I was allways a big supporter of the spokes due to their strength but that was just too large a difference!

    As a matter of fact anybody have a set of cast wheels they want to sell?
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  9. Xmoto

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    I have a set of cast wheels with 1500 miles on them is anyone wants to trade for spokes.
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  10. cug

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    I would think about it but only with a local change as I don't want to send wheels around.
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  11. abhorred

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    what is the weight difference for the set?

    I'd consider it, anyone have any experience with durability when aired down to 15psi (1 atm)?
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  12. abhorred

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    nevermind - found it

    spoked wheel: front 6.18kg, rear 5.91kg
    cast wheel: front 6.3kg, rear 5.474kg

    Source MCN corroborated with BMW parts data

    lighter in the front! one pound heavier in the rear

    I'll keep the wires thanks

    Maybe Tex's personal bike need a tune-up
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  13. cug

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    So, did somebody with two sets compare the difference? How noticeable is it?
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  14. cug

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    Oh, that's interesting. I might keep my spoke wheels, too ...
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  15. Texmoto1

    Texmoto1 Adventure Berzerker

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    I spent a whole thread on this.

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=608154


    We rented a couple of 2008 GS's in Cali and at home (in Texas) we have a 2007 and 2009. I understand that 08's have a few more HP's than an 07 however the 2008 were a hell of alot quicker than my buddies 09 as well. The only differences were ours have spokes and the rentals had cast. 2 pounds may not seem like allot but that is unsprung weight where 2 pounds is actually quite allot.
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  16. cug

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    I've read that and I don't believe it ... :D

    Given the data above the cast don't seem to be that much lighter, the front isn't at all, the back just half a pound. So I don't think it's that much of a deal. And comparing two different bikes with different wheels doesn't give you the right impression. You have to compare the different wheels on the same bike.
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  17. motorcyclemark

    motorcyclemark Been here awhile

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    When it comes time to sell the bike spoke wheels are much more desirable and will bring more $.
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  18. strsout

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    That is true!...
    It's hard to believe that just the format of the wheel will make all that power appears.
    the weight is virtually the same. I'm assuming the engine makes all that difference people are talking about.


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  19. abhorred

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    someone needs to weigh the newer design cast wheels. I'm talking about 2005-7 maybe there is a newer benefit?
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  20. hazard

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    You or someone who buys your bike else may need spokes when doing stuff like the picture below, or if they ever want to take the bike to Mexico or some such. Also, on my K1200GT I have replace 3 wheels because of cruddy California roads. I realize the cast is stronger on the GS, but still hit a few topas hard enough and your dead in some crap hole Mexican town.

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