Stoves

Discussion in 'Camping Toys' started by ibgary, Jul 3, 2015.

  1. nickguzzi

    nickguzzi Long timer

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    A trangia with propane gas conversion is great for all sorts of cooking, from reheating in a daze of tiredness to proper cooking with fresh ingredients to warming your croissant while you make your morning's bitter brew.

    Trangia sell their stoves with a gas burner very similar to the one in the previous post. The whole lot stack packs into something less than the size of half a soccer ball, the small 27 is even more compact.
    The gas makes a great product even better, adds the ability to control down to a few btu the output of your burner.

    I usually use the cartridges from the tail gate single burners - very cheap and very widely available here in Europe. It also find the form factor easier to stow and more convenient to use. If one doesn't last at least a week of 2x a day use I am very surprised.

    The camping/backpacking packaged ones from Coleman or SnowPeak etc are no better, just more expensive by a margin. There are a huge number of resellers of the ISO standardised connecter fitting.
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  2. PNWet

    PNWet Been here awhile

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    If I had to cook eggs in a Ti pan, I'd try to create a double boiler and steam bake the eggs, or use a zip Loc bag for a boil-in-the-bag.

    Alternatively, if neither of those are possible, and it was necessary to cook eggs in a ti pan, hold the pan in your hand (by the handle, of course) and control the heat by moving the pan higher/away from the flame.
  3. PNWet

    PNWet Been here awhile

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    I did some boil tests today. Nothing scientific, and I rarely just boil water, but it's an easy way to look at fuel consumption and heat output.

    Stove #1: Optimus Crux (the folding variety) (OC)
    Stove #2: Firemaple Hornet (FMS)

    Cookware A: Optimus Terra HE (OT)
    Cookware B: Snow Peak Ti Mini-Solo pot (SP)

    16 oz tap water, in my house (no wind)

    FMS + SP = 4:40 rolling boil time, 6 gm fuel usage
    OC + OT = 1:49 rolling boil time, 6 gm fuel usage

    FMS + OT = 2:58 rolling boil time, 5 gm fuel usage
    OC + SP = 3:50 rolling boil time, 7 gm fuel usage

    Thoughts:
    1- There's no doubt the OC + OT is a fast boiler. It rivals, maybe beats, JetBoil times.
    2- The heat exchanger system on the OT does save fuel.
    3- The heat distribution of the OC (i.e., size/width of the flame) with the OT heat exchanger is a perfect match.
    4- From previous experience, the flame control on the OC is touchy. If it's put on low simmer, it will slowly back out and eventually die. This means if you use the OC for low simmer, you'll need to constantly watch it and make incremental adjustments. The flame control on the FMS is much more stable, set it and you can walk away.
    5- The FMS + OT takes a little longer to boil, but with it you get excellent flame control and slightly improved fuel usage.
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  4. Castos

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    Here is the Ultimate Stove. It can replace the top box:D

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  5. houlster

    houlster Been here awhile Supporter

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  6. appliance57

    appliance57 Long timer

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    My bike has 113 HP so it can handle it :-). They make one called the spider which is light, compact and considered one of the most efficient stoves made. They also make stuff for MSR etc.. so you're probably already using one. Koveas are beautifully made, great flame control, and reasonably priced.
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  7. GreatWhiteNorth

    GreatWhiteNorth Long timer

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    If you like the MSR canister stoves, you like Kovea. I had an MSR Pocket Rocket, passed that on to a friend cheap, bought the Kovea Nano which is smaller, fits in the cookset better. Great little stove, and great deal from this Cdn seller in Alberta:

    https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Kovea-Power...815697?hash=item3d4b07ed11:g:6FoAAOSwVgtZ2WNA
  8. PNWet

    PNWet Been here awhile

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    Not a post about stoves, but about cookware. In the past I've suggested and use a silicone spatula for cooking in non stick pan .

    Recently I found some longer handle bamboo soup spoons. I ordered a pack. They are just the right size and should eliminate any concerns about melting. They are also safe for non stick but still very useable for regular cookware.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00579OKVO?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
  9. 9Realms

    9Realms Drawn in by the complex plot

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    I recently stumbled onto these sort of flat-ish, flappy silicone type spoon things at my local Dollar Tree store.

    Not really a spoon, not really a spatula, but you can stir and toss things around in a titanium pan without messing it up.

    Also can be used to eat with. Shown about actual size (8 x 1.75)

    Oh, and they are just a dollar... :-)

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  10. MiteyF

    MiteyF Long timer

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    I thought maybe some of you stove nerds would appreciate this. Ever since I started camping (and especially moto-camping) for some reason I've really wanted an old Optimus 8R/Hiker/Hunter etc. They were before my time really, but I always thought they were cool. Looked at them many many times on eBay over the years, but never could convince myself to buy one for some reason. A few months ago I was at my parents helping them clean out the garage. While going through some of my dad's unused hunting/camping gear, I came across this little gem. Probably never out of the package before, and certainly never used. Even the rubber seal on the fuel cap is soft and looks like new. Right now it's sitting with my spare camping gear. While I'd love to fire it up and use it... well, it's just so *cleeeann*

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  11. 9Realms

    9Realms Drawn in by the complex plot

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    That's soooo purdy. Stove porn :getiton
    I'm sure it would be happy to serve you.
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  12. nvklr

    nvklr Been here awhile

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    Oh that's a sweet find!
  13. 2old2Bbold

    2old2Bbold was 2bold2getold

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    We had some of those when I climbed McKinley in "84. They were ok but the MSR XGK was a better, more efficient stove.
  14. BigEasy

    BigEasy Fish Eyed Heathen

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    I’ve got one of those I bought new in the mid ‘70’s they are an awesome little stove. I’ve carried it hundreds of miles on backpacking trips before I switched to an MSR.

    I still pull it out every once in a while for the flashbacks. They are a pain to light but once going they are pretty easy to cook with.
  15. Andy_L

    Andy_L Been here awhile

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    Knocked down from $46.95 to $29.93 - must have been too cheap for your dad to pass by, even though he didn't really need it... I'm sure we've all got a few bits of kit like that :-)
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  16. grogger123

    grogger123 fatbastard

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    I have owned my Trangia for nearly 30 years. I also have the MSR Whisperlite International and a Kovea butane stove. My preference these days is the Trangia with the original metho burner. I just like the simplicity and effectiveness of it. So I use it on the bike these days. I’ve definitely gone full circle.

    I do have the burner attachment. I keep this in my bigger Trangia which I keep in my 4wd. It really works well. In all honesty hiking stoves are all reasonably cheap. So if people aren’t sure what to get, just buy the different types and see what you prefer.
  17. Maggot12

    Maggot12 U'mmmm yeaah!!

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    That's still pretty expensive for that time... not sure I'd want to spark it up.

  18. PK2

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    I've got an old Optimus, great little stove!

    Nice find, unreal condition!
  19. vagueout

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    Optimus 8R new in the box pristine. That is a grail find. There are a couple of dedicated camping stove forums, this find would induce heart palpitation. I'm thinking their feelings would be not to use it.:thumb
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  20. Cal

    Cal Long timer

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    Did the Optimus 8r have a pressure pump for the fuel tank or was it like my Svea 123 where you added fuel to a cup under the burner to develop pressure?