Initial reports for the "light bee" or whatever it's called have been good, but that thing just looks like a big weird pit bike and I am not too interested. The drivetrain mods, however, are potentially really cool because you can stuff a way bigger motor in there, mess with the software via opensource if you know how to do that stuff, like the guys at Luna have done. Still stuck in that ridiculous pit bike looking frame though. Sur-Ron is apparently offering "powertrains" on their website, but no info on how much they cost, when they will be available, etc: http://www.sur-ron.com/page214?_l=en My dream is to convert my little Husky TE250 into an ebike for riding trails. I only need a couple of hours range, and using the Alta Redshift as a comparison, I want to use about 1.45kwh on a ride. This should be more than doable with one of these powertrain kits. If they can be had for under $2k, then spend another grand on battery(ies), could be a really fun project! I posted this question on endless sphere, the ebike forum, but those guys are such engineer-nerds that I think they actually like the complexity of picking individual motor, controllers, and everything else. I do not, I want a kit. Has anyone tried to "de-ICE" their moto? I'd love to hear about it!