Suzuki TS Thread

Discussion in '2 smokers' started by wfopete, Oct 10, 2012.

  1. DangerousJohnson

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    Hey All,

    What do you guys think is a fair value for a late '70s TS125 that's not running but does have a clean title?

    (The seller actually says it's a TS135 but I can't find anything about that so I'm guessing it's a typo.)

    Seller says it's complete. I haven't seen a photo and the description doesn't offer much to go on as far as condition goes. I guess let's assume average condition for that age.

    Edit: located in southeast Iowa, USA.
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  2. DancesWithPoultry

    DancesWithPoultry n00b

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    Well, for a start, it depends a hell of a lot on which country in the world you're in. Where I am, if be guessing about New Zealand $450.

    Cheers

    Nigel in NZ
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  3. DangerousJohnson

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    LOL yes it does :1drink

    Didn't realize that wasn't in my signature. I'm in the US. Southeast Iowa.
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  4. thehoggster

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    I picked up this beauty from the original owner (79 years old). He used it to jot back and forth a half mile or so to work back in the day. now he says he is just too old to kick it and ride. This thing is a marvel; 1974 first kick bike. My first bike was a 1976 YZ80, since then I haven't ridden an air cooled 2-stroke. The feel, the smell...instant time warp back to 6-7 years old. One of the greatest feelings in the world. I am in love.
    1974 TS185
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    1974 Suzuki TS185 by thehoggster1, on Flickr
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    1974 Suzuki TS185 by thehoggster1, on Flickr
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  5. Miguel Sanchez

    Miguel Sanchez VD #103 Supporter

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    Just found this thread, let's keep it alive!

    I've been a TS lover for 40 years... I currently have a 1971, a 1973, and a 1974 - all TS 185's. The '71 has been radically bored and runs a Kawasaki snowmobile piston for 220cc displacement!! Its a blast to ride :)
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  6. hudzjeep

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    Keeping it alive.
    I'm a long time lurker, but gotta add my respect to the the TS thread. i have a 1972 ts185. Awesome little trail bike. I run it in the desert when i rude with my kid every chance i get.

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  7. wfrpalm

    wfrpalm Been here awhile

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  8. hudzjeep

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    I just came back from a calm ride through reche canyon in so Cali this morning on the ts185. [​IMG]
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  9. Kubla

    Kubla Long timer

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    I am buying a 73 ts 125 this week, what should I look out for, supposedly it runs great and everything on it works

    my first bike was a ts 90 back in 1977
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  10. hudzjeep

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    See if idles obviously. Make note if it starts and if it has decent compression. If it doesn't could have an airleak and may need to split the cases to correct. Keep it running for a few minutes while you talk to him after you or he takes it for a ride going through all the gears. Watch to see if it leaks after its warm. Is it oil injected or pre mix? In any case, just look for leaks. If it's injected, make sure its not leaking. When I bought mine, I'm lucky it did not sieze, I found the oil line was brittle and cracked and compromised the vacuum for the 2 stroke oil. Good luck man. All the TS models are rad.
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  11. DancesWithPoultry

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    If it's running on premix, then be wary of the motor. The left side crank main bearing and the big end bearing are fed ONLY from the oil pump, unlike most two-smokes. The right side main bearing is fed from the clutch housing, getting pure gearbox oil. This means all the crank bearings get feed neat undiluted oil, which is why these bikes last so well. They require extensive (and expensive!) modification to run on premix.

    Listen for loud piston slap and and rumbles from the crankcase. An air cooled two-stroke will usually have a bit of a rattle when started from cold but the slap should reduce as the piston expands with warmth.

    The motor should start from cold with full choke and run within 5-10 seconds without it. It shouldn't need choke to start when it's warm. If it does, that's a sign that the crank seals are leaking.

    There's a lot more info at the specialist TS forum, suzukits.com

    Cheers

    Nigel in NZ
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  12. Kubla

    Kubla Long timer

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    Got the bike today, started easy, runs great, needs fork seals, has the wrong front wheel which is also bent, lights all work, brakes need serious adjustment or new shoes, I paid too much for it, $800

    Has a new clutch

    Suzukits.com will not let me post even after registration, keeps telling me wrong confirmation number when I hit submit
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  13. Scot229

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    This is my only dirt bike. I have only ridden it in the yard in 1st and 2nd gear. I got a manual online and tried to "fix" the wiring to make all the lights work. Since I "fixed" it now it doesn't run.

    It is missing a proper 2 stoke oil tank. It had a weed whacker oil tank plumbed into the OEM lines but it was held in place by zip ties. I now have an apple juice bottle under the seat with a tire valve in it feeding Amsoil Dominator into the oil injection as a temp fix. I'll weld up a real oil tank if I ever get it to run again. Maybe this time I will actually "fix" it.

    It's only redeeming features are that I know it WILL run if I get it wired correctly because I have ridden it. I also have a clear title for it and when I transfered into my name I put collector plates on it.

    I am contemplating bypassing all of the wiring besides the points and the kill switch to simplify the bike. The original wiring is a mess. I don't want to spend alot of money on this bike but I do want to ride it.

    Here's a pic. It is my only adventure bike, unless you count leaving your neighborhood on an Ironhead Sportster an adventure. Then I have 2.

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  14. Tony T

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    Have been considering selling mine, but not so sure it's a good idea.
    It might be ugly but it suits me........ :lol3

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  15. LWC3077

    LWC3077 Been here awhile

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    Hi
    can you provide more specific details on this piston modification eg part number, year, model etc I was looking into a Kawasaki piston as well but now i found someone who knows exactly what to do.

    I have got a 1980 TS185 and a 1980 TS250. The TS250 is my current project i am about to start on. Its gonna have a fair few mods to it to improve it and make it a bit better dirt bike and a little more PE like but i also do not want to spoil the original look too much either and make permanant non reversible modifications. I have collected a lot of period goodies for this bike. i keep reading about how good the engines are on this model so i am ver kee to ty mine which also has a ported cylinder. Don't know how good it is but the ex port is massive and the ports are all polished. I also have already made a high output stator for it aswell to run better 12v electrics.

    I also own 2 x 1980 PE250s and 1 x 1982 PE250 and 1 x 1972 XL250. Soon i will have enough parts to build up a 1980 PE400 aswell.
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  16. LWC3077

    LWC3077 Been here awhile

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    What length shocks are you using and what sprocket combination? I am aiming for around 20-25mm longer shocks but i think it will depend on sprocket sizes as i do not want the chain wearing through the buffer a lot and i dont want to jack up the rear end lots either. Yours looks pretty good. That chain buffer part is NLA but i have had some made in urethane and got the mold to make more. I might convert mine to 520 chain instead of 525. Also what size tyre are you using on the back? Thanks
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  17. Miguel Sanchez

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    I don't have the exact specifications for the piston any longer, it has been many years since I did that work. I do know it is now 70mm bore, and the guy the piston came from said it was for a Kawasaki 440 snowmobile - one of the old air cooled ones.

    I also have a 1980 Suzuki DR490, a 1980 RS250, and a 1980 RS175. The RS series are pretty cool one-year only bikes - basically a PE engine in an RM chassis.



    Sent from my fart smone using crapatalk
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  18. LWC3077

    LWC3077 Been here awhile

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    Ok yeah i think it was that model snowmobile i was looking at too so should investigate futher. Pretty sure you cant take a reed motor out that big though because of case reedvalve. Mine is currently 197cc with +2mm (66mm) piston I was looking at a piston around 67-69mm Problem was the small end size as most pistons that size were using 18mm except for some older stuff. There is enough thickness in sleeve to go maybe 2mm or so above the 2mm oversize from Wiseco.

    i am familiar with the RS series.
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  19. john479

    john479 Been here awhile

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    Hi,

    Sorry for the delay in replying. Only just seen your PM.

    My shocks are 400mm long with progressive springs but couldn't tell you the make of them I'm afraid. In my opinion they look better than stock and don't look out of proportion with the front forks. Sprocket sizes I'm running are 16 46 running a 525 chain.

    Open this helps :)
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  20. Dansrc51

    Dansrc51 I need a cape....

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    Hi all, I picked this up from a fellow ADV member. This pic is over a year old, and I've done a lot to it. Hoping to fire it up for the first time in several decades within the next week or so. New tires, chain and she's ready to go!

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    Edit: it's actually a TC 185. Can I still play?
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