Tailbone pain

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by ivantheterrible, Dec 3, 2017.

  1. B_C_Ries

    B_C_Ries Long timer

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    I stand up on the pegs every 20-30 minutes. I've done 1,000 mile days that way. People in cars often give me funny looks, like they think I'm doing something daring but I just do it because it feels good.
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  2. foxtrapper

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    If the pain really is tailbone specific and not generic sore butt, I'd take the stock saddle, uncover it, and scoop some center foam out to see if that helps alleviate it. Wouldn't even necessarily put the cover back on to test it on a ride or centerstand sitting session.

    If you don't like the idea of cutting up your seat, buy a used one off ebay and hack and that.

    For inspiration: http://www.rushracingproducts.com/cyclepedic.html
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  3. ivantheterrible

    ivantheterrible Long timer Supporter

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    I've done this very thing, and it did help some. It is definitely the tailbone and not generic sore butt.
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  4. ivantheterrible

    ivantheterrible Long timer Supporter

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    Special thanks to Mayomoto for the long detail exercise program he sent me! I'll try them all and report back.

    I did some exercises last night (not mayomoto's suggestions, as I just received those today, but stuff I got off the internet) hip thrusts, donkey kicks, sliding lunges. My butt is sore, good post workout sore, and it might be psychosomatic, but less painful as I sit at my computer and type this.

    My plan now is to take a few weeks off riding, I have a kneeling chair on order for my office, and to really give exercise a chance, while I save my pennies for that russell day long seat.
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  5. Snowbird

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    I'm not you, so consider that when reading this: In my experience, seats that are rounded out as they meet your backside can cause discomfort. A flatter, firmer seat might help. Corbins are shaped precisely the way that causes problems for some and it is a common complaint among people who get them. Others think Corbins are heaven and proselytize without end. The Russel day longs people recommend I expect don't round out as you sit on them. Typical cruiser seats do round out. You may need to get a seat that supports mainly your pelvis and the backs of your upper legs and be patient because some bodily irritations can take a long time to heal and even the proper seat for you may not give relief immediately.
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  6. Hi-De-Ho

    Hi-De-Ho Mad Scientist Super Supporter

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    Allow me to add this one little tidbit.......every two years, at the beginning of THEE IronButt Rally (11,000 miles in 11 days), of the 100 motorcycles sitting in the parking lot of the Start Hotel....at least 80% of those 100 motorcycles will have a Russell Day Long seat on their bikes.

    This year, 2017, the top 10 bikes that finished the IronButt Rally.....all top ten finishers had a Russell Day Long seat on their bike.

    The RDL seats do NOT work for every human body...that is a fact......but they have been proven to be the cure...the answer to the question....for the vast majority of riders that do serious long distance/endurance riding, and for riders that have chronic back pain.
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  7. Xcelite

    Xcelite Been here awhile Supporter

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    The saddlemen track seat helped me, but only a little. That was on a KLR650. In the end, being 6'4'', I prefer tall seats to OEM/shorter seats which the saddlemen seats are. I have to stand up pretty often. Even ten seconds of standing can provide a bit of relief. I've spent thousands on doctors visits and injections of various sorts. Nothing helped, not even for a day. Physical therapy is the next step. I wish they had gone that route first. Should be a lot less expensive than xray guided injections.
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  8. davenowherejones

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    I had a wall of a house fall on me. Long story. Back pain for a few years. Exercise really helped.

    If you have a skinny ass, McDonalds can cure that. Worked for me.

    The fat assed seat on my wide assed Honda Forza 300 maxi-scooter looked huge until I sat MY fat ass on it. It fits.
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  9. Strong Bad

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    Seats (saddles) are personal and as such the BEST fit for you and your seat is to have a custom seat fitted by someone like Rocky Meyer (RMS). You make an appointment and he custom builds a saddle which you test ride and he adjusts. He goes to many bike events and you may find an event near you. I sent my RDL saddle back as it didn't work for me, I've had my RMS for 3 years and 10's of thousands of miles. There is no one solution for everyone!
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  10. RJAMT

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    The seat I've put on my last couple of bikes is by Seth Laam.

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    It's a little cheaper than the Russell and a little less "tractor like" in appearance but does an excellent job of supporting my skinny rear without pain. I did my first Iron Butt certification ride on one. Give him a call and see what he can do for you. He enjoys talking to his customers.
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  11. atomicalex

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    @JaxObsessed and I had the same seat at one point (solo F650GS single seat) and completely opposite reactions. I love it to death, he found it to be an instrument of medieval torture. Our opinions of the Dakar seat are also diametrically opposed, in the opposite direction!
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  12. fast4d

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    I only have this issue on upright bikes. On sport bikes I get sore elsewhere.

    I find that repositioning the bar so I'm slightly leaned forward makes the problem disappear.
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  13. JaxObsessed

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    In my defense, my ass is at least 2x the size of yours. :D
    I took a dakar seat and added foam to make it flat like a dirt bike seat. It has served me well in 50K of riding.
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  14. ChuckieSmith

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    Ivan, how is your tailbone situation getting along. I too have terrible pain at the base of my tailbone that only dualsport/ off-road riding seems to cause. Thanks, Chuck
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    Not great I'm afraid to say. I haven't been as consistent with the exercising as I need to be, and though I've messed around with different seat configurations (not as crazy as it might sound, I actually do have some experience with upholstery ) and different seat foam densities, i haven't hit on the right combo yet.

    I soon dumped the dr650 (fine bike, but really wasn't feelin' it, if you know what i mean) after starting this thread and now ride a sportster. Love the sportster and it's the first bike I've had in many years that I haven't thought once about getting rid of. Unfortunately most of the seats that folks like for them are scooped out bucket seats, which hit my tailbone all wrong.

    I'm not opposed to dropping big coin on an after market seat, if I could find one that I thought would work. I still believe that flat is the way to go, as any kind of scooped out seat absolutely doesn't work for me. My current plan, is to weld up a frame (not as crazy as it might sound, I actually have some metal fab skills) and weave it with bungee chord to make a somewhat springy base, and then cover it with foam.

    I don't think i'd ever give up riding, but I'd like to be able to go on longer rides than an hour or so.
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  16. ChuckieSmith

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    I believe my tailbone issue has been exacerbated by riding my KLR650 with the stock seat. The seat is very soft which has allowed the tailbone to hit the seat as much as if not more than the two “sitting” bones. I have tried to discipline myself with better posture. With proper posture the tailbone does not hit the seat. I am motivated to exercise to be ready for next year. Thanks and good luck to you, Chuck
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    good luck to you as well. I do think exercise is helpful, but you have to do it with some consistency to see results. thanks for reviving this old thread. I was inspired to come home from work and have a good workout. Now if I can only string together a few weeks or more.....
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  18. georet

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    I think CSmith has hit upon one of the factors that causes me tailbone pain. That being the compression of the seat allows the tailbone to be compressed. Also position plays a role for me. I can ride my road bicycle or my mtn bike more comfortably than my 500 EXC. On both bicycles I'm tilted forward and both saddles are typical firm (hard) and narrow which puts weight on sit bones and the tilted forward position prevents tail bone contact. I'm 74 with L4-L5 disc problems so my observations may not apply to others. I'd like to try a very firm motorcycle seat to see if it would help.
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    On my Honda Forza 300 scooter I tilted the handle bars down to give me a sport bike back with a cruiser leg position. It feels strange but it works for me.

    On my DR650 the stock seat was all wrong and I went with a Seat Concepts seat but I had a lowered step one. This did not really work but a regular Seat Concepts DR650 pad would have been excellent.

    People complain about seats and I think they actually need a harder seat and not a softer one.
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  20. willis 2000

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    Lower handlebars work. Or a cruiser with forward pegs.
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