The 650 Dakar Thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by underwaterguru, Mar 10, 2009.

  1. Clay-doh

    Clay-doh Been here awhile

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    Probably due to the buildup of carbon within the combustion chamber. More carbon = less free space to compress the burn mixture (air/fuel) = higher measured compression.
  2. Gedrog

    Gedrog 1000 mile stare a 1000 stories to tell

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    Maybe the point I am trying to make is eluding you so I will try to explain again
    If you overlay the anchor points of the extension on the 1spark fender you will see it anchors between two mounting points on the lower fender
    and on top of the lower part of the 1 spark fender
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    What @Don Coyote suggest is to mount it like so
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    Which I suspect will look like something this.
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    Now see what happens with your anchor points, and although it might weigh nothing, but longer levers needs less power to deliver higher forces right?
    And as you can see the 1 spark fender on-top of the 2 spark fender in the configuration @Don Coyote suggest there is literally no support and a massive lever
    I long distance and the front beak will crack through and snap off
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    hopefully now you see what I see
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  3. eakins

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    Thanks for the post.

    I'm still willing to try as the 2 rear mounts are in the strong sub fender...and my top fender is all rashed to hell where that Dakar would cover it.
    I'd even add a small support bracket for the center bolt connecting to the sub fender.

    If it falls off, oh well...

    Thanks for the better detail pics.
  4. wpoll

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  5. Don Coyote

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  6. WayneC

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  7. djroszina

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    Low fender, no thanks. 5D106658-7A73-4709-9FDB-C34E075EA36F.jpeg 1D081697-E0B1-40CA-9883-97099FBC88B4.jpeg
    The fender brace is bad enough.
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  8. WayneC

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    Well said, there have been serious injuries with low fenders in muddy conditions here in Oz, a chopper ride out to hospital is no fun
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  9. Don Coyote

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    So you already have the extension lip mounted on a 2 spark. Did you just drill holes and mount it with the included hardware? How much have you ridden with it?
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  10. Gedrog

    Gedrog 1000 mile stare a 1000 stories to tell

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    Fully agree there I would not ride off-road with a lower fender, even the fork brace is a nightmare in the mud, I love my low fender for my daily motorway commute keeps the spray away from me and my helmet much happier.
    I like the new Tenere lower fender the mid section can be easily removed I will be waiting for the GEN 2 of the T700 but this is definitely a bike that appeals to me

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  11. djroszina

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    I just mounted it with supplied hardware. I have around 12 thousand miles with it installed. I also installed the metal underfender brace by Aquatic. One thing the Dakar is susceptible to is its radiators clogging on wet gravel roads from the roadspray.
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  12. mehoww

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    no low fender= no problem

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    Or actually the only problem left, is to steer this heavy lump to ride to the direction you want in such a conditions :D
  13. eakins

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    Ah there is a 2 spark front fender with a 1 spark Dakar fender extension added!

    Any issues, cracking, breaking etc or is it all holding up well with off-road use?

    Got any pics of it from bottom all bolted together?

    I removed my lower fender too on my 2 spark.

    I upgraded to the Happy Trails fork brace which is less of a dirt catching shovel like the OEM. It comes with 2 sets of bolts - GS & Dakar.
  14. eakins

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    Missed this post at first, thanks.

    Still live to see a pic from below.

    So these 2 braces
    https://advrider.com/f/threads/rate...dakar-sertao-yz-wr-suspension-upgrade.952045/
  15. Don Coyote

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    Never noticed that brace before, thought it was for adapting other forks to the OEM fender. Why is it needed? Not seeing what it has to do with the radiator...
  16. djroszina

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    Nothing to do with the radiator(s). Just that with the high fender and how the aerodynamics are, the roadspray containing stone dust collects and eventually blocks the radiator fins. A few times on my AK trip I had to stop and hose down the radiators softening and flushing the accumulation off of them to prevent overheating.
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    I think those are both 1 spark inner fender brackets from the pictures but maybe the lower 1 spark bracket fit a 2 spark inner fender too?
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    Hooter, Aussie speak for horn.
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    So this bracket fits under the 2 spark inner front fender and strengthens the whole assy after you added the 1 spark Dakar fender extension. Is that how I understand it?

    Does that reduce the fender moving up and down and potential damage to the 2spark outer fender as Gedrog is concerned about?

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  20. eakins

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    So on the 1 spark the horn is up in the inner fender? And thus a hooter brace.