The Africa Twin CRF1000L Owners' Thread

Discussion in 'Japanese polycylindered adventure bikes' started by erey, Dec 20, 2015.

  1. Greg the pole

    Greg the pole There are no stupid questions, only stupid people

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    A few things to note:
    -as you said, PCV gives the most flexibility, but is a pain to install
    -I do have K and N filters, and a staintune slip on only. PCV seems to have smoothed out the bike, and feels like it has more shove
    -DO NOT waste your time with Hilltop ECUs. Utter muppets. The people I dealt with (desk/email staff) couldn't get me actual numbers, a map after the tune, price etc..
    The local guy in Vancouver had no help from the mother ship (basically a franchise deal of sorts, with all the add costs, but zero support)
    -I went down one tooth on the front...didn't really like it. Speedo and odo error went up considerably. Yes it was snappier, but rev'd too high on the hwy, and didn't bring me the benefits I thought it would.

    Glad the upmap is working as you have hoped.
  2. Greg the pole

    Greg the pole There are no stupid questions, only stupid people

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    Might be a good idea. Looking at the pictures, they would go to one tb.
    But....honda car division is having all sorts of issues with their DI. The way it was explained to me is the pistons are dished, the injector squirts in the mixture at one edge, and the fuel/air atomizes as it goes over the piston surface. It works well when the piston surface is clean, but the minute any carbon builds up on the piston the path of the mixture gets all bumpy, and the system throws a mis fire code.
    I think ford had a similar issue on their 1st gen ECOboosts. That said, 2nd gen is largely sorted.
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  3. cblais19

    cblais19 Long timer

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    Haven't heard of widespread DI issues on the Honda car engines; do you have a specific model? Only major light vehicle issue I'm aware of is the oil dilution thing with the 1.5T in cold climates and short run times.
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    Amphib A mind is like a parachute....

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  5. Greg the pole

    Greg the pole There are no stupid questions, only stupid people

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    yep, the 3.5L ridgeline (2nd gen)
    Buddy is a mechanic at Honda Calgary. He's my source.
    Another guy we ride with has his ridgeline in the dealer for two or three months. Ended up replacing complete wiring harness and some other shit.
  6. cblais19

    cblais19 Long timer

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    I'll PM ya!

    Huh, I would've thought that any 3.5L DI issues would show up in the Pilot first since there's SO many more of those. Odd regardless. My DI 2.4L Accord is a gem. Anyway, I'll end the derail :p.
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  7. swimmer

    swimmer armchair asshole

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    Yeah, that one also won't fit. Not that it matters since what you have works, but Shorai suggests a different model than that for the '16-'17 AT.
  8. swimmer

    swimmer armchair asshole

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    The Toyota DI engines with D4-S technology have a cleaning cycle they periodically go through at hot idle to deal with carbon build up issues on the injectors and also supplemental port injectors used a low load to help keep the valves clean.
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  9. Greg the pole

    Greg the pole There are no stupid questions, only stupid people

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    I have limited experience with newer honda cars.
    Besides, I hang out with dudes that have trucks...almost bought a ridgeline myself, but it was out of my range for what I could spend.
    have owned my share of good hondas...prob my fav was a 1986 Accord LX.. Bulletproof, and extremely well built. POP UP headlamps!!!
    :D
  10. neanderthal

    neanderthal globeriding wannabe

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    The 2nd gen ecoboosts now also have port injectors.
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  11. neanderthal

    neanderthal globeriding wannabe

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    And lower emissions.
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  12. sweetlou

    sweetlou small body, big balls

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    And all reports of intake valve coking on first gen Ecoboosts have yet to be substantiated... always just post pictures of 1980s era European boosted engines!
  13. gve.mcmlxxiv

    gve.mcmlxxiv Been here awhile

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    its actually called the atz-10, 360 is part of the name and is the cranking amps. one of the reasons i got it was the restart button. if you have a parasitic drain on your Lithium battery and it gets below 10V the battery is dead forever. this disconnects that and leaves enough juice in the battery to restart.

    this is something you need to understand before you get any lithium battery.
    watch the Lemmy video here:
    https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/antigravity-restart-lithium-ion-battery

    heres the one i bought for 2016
    https://www.cyclegear.com/parts/antigravity-atz-10-restart-360ca-lithium-ion-battery
  14. swimmer

    swimmer armchair asshole

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    Unfortunately nothing from Antigravity fits the '18+ AT.

    I hope that the revised 2020 AT uses this same ELIIY Power Lithium battery so that the production numbers can justify one of the aftermarket battery guys to produce a suitable substitute.
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    gve.mcmlxxiv Been here awhile

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    Yeah, I was actually looking at Ford engines this morning. They are calling it PDFI port -direct-fuel injection. Port injection have the self cleaning of carbon going on is the reason.
  16. gve.mcmlxxiv

    gve.mcmlxxiv Been here awhile

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    There probably is something. If you call them with your battery number they can probably recommend. It’s probably not indexed. The 360 cranking amps va the factory 220 turn it on immediately
  17. swimmer

    swimmer armchair asshole

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    No, nothing fits into the battery box. The lithium battery doesn't have a standard case size.
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    Junglejeff1 Long timer

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    Maby they should apply some technology to making fuel tanks with out welding slag and forks that don't wear out before they do this.
  19. Junglejeff1

    Junglejeff1 Long timer

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    Besides never buying another honda ever again I will run from this eco crap.Will go back to my older bikes that are much easier to service and run just fine.I guess motorcycles and cow farts are causing global warming or cooling now(take your pick).I just got a paper from my electric company saying that the electricity I use is over 80% from coal.same in 4 surrounding states.China spews the crap out so much they have to wear masks there.And the idiot's think coming down on motorcycles is going to help.As long as it makes people feel better lol.
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  20. cblais19

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    To be fair, the 2 wheeled emissions controls are out of Europe, where there are vastly higher numbers in the urban areas - and particulates are of far more concern. Only
    CA really gives a crap over here, and you should remember how bad the air pollution was in the major cities there before they clamped down on vehicle emissions.

    It’s not all climate change concerns.

    Maybe if we were a much bigger market, the import brands wouldn’t economize by giving us Euro 4/5 compliant emissions systems.
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