The Africa Twin XRV650 & XRV750 thread

Discussion in 'Japanese polycylindered adventure bikes' started by iswoolley, Aug 23, 2004.

  1. jackafrica

    jackafrica sinking low in the saddle

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    There's an Africa Queens tank available for the TA, both the new and old, as far as I recall.
    I've seen the AQ tank for the new 650TA, they're a very ordinary finish, made from fibreglass and bloody heavy WITHOUT fuel. About 4" of the fairing is cut away to make it fit, also requires the removal of the pulse air valve on the TA650. The owner of the bike I saw is still trying to find a suitable location for the airvalve, which prevents the engine from backfiring.
    Better would be a carbon fibre/kevlar mat mix for lighter weight. But at the price they charge for the fibreglass version I can't begin to imagine the cost for one in a better, lighter material.
    They do require a fuel pump, the Honda AT ( low pressure ) pump is best, pump that Africa Queens supplies has to high a pressure.
    At 38 litres capacity, it will take you a looong way :nod
    The Honda AT tank also requires a fuel pump.
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  2. modrover

    modrover BOOMSHANKA!

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    Yeah, I haven't really heard that many great things about those AQ deals.

    I'm still sticking to my plan Richo. I've decided to teardown my low miler TA and make THAT one into my enduro monster. I look at it this way... the enduro TA will be the one that'll be taking me to hell and back... would I want a mechanical pop'n it's head someplace in hell? :lol3

    Didn't Churchill says something like, "If you find yourself goint thru hell... keep going." -I like that. :1drink

    My higher mile bike gets well maintained, but 36K parts do give up the ghost sometimes and sometimes without a good clue. :nod That, and the fact that the lower mile bike is so damn fresh... makes pop'n the front end over logs and junk THAT much easier! :thumb

    I've got to put one of those R80 or R100 GS bikes on hold. I must do this TA makeover first. I'm thinking I can drop about 50 lbs. off this beast before I'm done. Think... big V-Twin with just enough bits on it to keep her street legal. :thumb I can't do anything until like fall/winter... I'm broke man. BROKE! :rofl

    So... how many miles on the TA now? Snowing yet? :lol3
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  3. jackafrica

    jackafrica sinking low in the saddle

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    Michael,
    Snowin ' - you been peekin' out da winda ain' cha :nod
    Snowflakes and wind today, bloody freezin'.
    Playin' with a Staintune oval muff to cut and shut onto the G/S PD ( after removing pillion pegs and pannier frames ), should look tough.
    Don't wreck your low mileage bike, that's naughty. 36k miles isn't a whole lot, issues are all well documented. Learn to work on the bike first, if you're going to hell and want to come back, no matter how new the bike you'd want to be familiar with it mechanically.
    Losing 50 lbs is a nice thought, but can't really see where the 50 is coming from. but hey, I'm all :ear when it comes to this theory bit on what you're likely to spend YOUR winter doing, instead of riding :wink: I've heard about the north wet.
    Sadly, no one I'm aware of makes an alternate tank for the 650TA and the Africa Twin tanks are unlikely to fit, even if I could get my hands on one !
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  4. rob_erto

    rob_erto Been here awhile

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  5. Tim

    Tim Long timer

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    Thanks, OE AT tank fitted with AQ fuel level warning light, that's all.
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  6. Gustavo

    Gustavo Motociclista Errante

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    I've brought bikes in from Canada, and that is a piece of cake, generaly. The reason is that Canadian bikes are usually the same (spec wise) as the American version so getting the letter from the manufacturer that certifies the bike meets all DOT/EPA regulations is easy. That is the problem with bringing bikes (and cars) from Europe, Asia, Africa or south of the border. All those other markets have different official specs, so you can't get the required certificate that the bike does indeed meet US Specs. It's especially frustrating becuase you are often hard pressed to find those "critical" differences between bikes (it's more obvious for cars usually) in different markets. What's more, Euro models these days are usually cleaner then US models, so at least from the EPA perspective, it should not be an issue. But then the DOT starts being the barrier. At that point you'll start learning what bureaucracy really means... :cry After reading the requirements and talking with people who had done it, I decided that it's not really worth the hassle. The value of your free time may vary.

    There are several options around those restrictions. I haven't looked at it recently, but if you could prove that you lived in outside the US for some time and and have owned the bike for a year or so (don't quote me on that last bit, might be more), they would allow you to bring the bike back as your personal vehicle and waive some of the conversion and certification requirements. That, I think, was the easiest way to import a non-US model to the US. I know several people who worked in Europe and brought bikes that way.

    There used to be a few outfits that specialized in getting grey market bikes registered in the US (this included 2-stroke race replicas), but it wasn't cheap and in many states it's getting tougher and tougher to get those bikes registered. IIRC, the cost of certification can easily double the cost of a bike, unless that specific model had been certified that year by someone else, and that cuts the red-tape significnatly.

    All you ever wanted to know (and find the errors in my ramble above):

    http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/

    Gustavo
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  7. iswoolley

    iswoolley Restless traveller

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    I've got a weird problem with my 2002 Africa Twin. At speeds around 30mph (50kph) the front end bounces up and down like a pogo stick. At dead slow speeds it rolls smoothly, and at higher speeds it's good as well. It's just a range of about 10mph centered on 30mph.

    I'm running Michelin Anakees on both ends of the bike, the front with about 6000 miles on it. The tread looks okay, although there is the usual difference in wear between front and back of the tread blocks. I've had the front wheel statically balanced, because initially I thought I'd lost a weight, or something. That didn't make a difference.

    It's been suggested to me that the tyre has worn to a point where it's vibrating at the harmonic frequency of the front forks, at 30mph. Does this sound reasonable? Should I get the forks checked out? Is tyre pressure hyper critical with this bike-tyre combination?

    Help! Iain.
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  8. woods

    woods n00b

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    I asked to the missus to upgrade, and surprise surprise she said yes,started to advertise the @, and here comes the worst point of my 28 years of biking, I have become so attached to the @ and it is now emotionally impossible to sell the bike. I have never grown so attached to any of my previous bikes.
    I guess if you have an @ upgrading seems difficult.
    (for iswoolley)
    Tyre pressures are critical on the @, if you have used them deflated offroad you better get them up to the correct pressure asap. On Michelin Anarkees we tested it to be 2,7bars for the front tyre, and 3,0bars foer the back tyre. Hope this helps.
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  9. iswoolley

    iswoolley Restless traveller

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    Holy Cow! :eek1 That's 39 and 43 psi in old money, which is about 10psi more than I normally run. I've had recomendations to run at 30 psi (approx. 2 bar) before, but there again I've got my current weirdness. Do you mainly run the bike loaded up (pillion, luggage, etc.)?

    Iain
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  10. woods

    woods n00b

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    Since the missus wont let me have all the fun alone she is with me 75% of the time. I also went "never that is way to hard" for the pressure, but its working now. I previously ran the Bridgestone trailwings and had exactly the same problem, I changed the pressures and was amazed with the results.Now here comes something not everyone does with his/her @.Mine is used for the odd track day offroad academy and just plain touring,on-road and off-road.I know I cant race around a track at lap record speed, but I still enjoy the thumbs up in the pits from a R1,GSXR etc. rider when he cant close the gap around a corner. But I will do the same to him if he ever ventures offroad.!
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  11. Args

    Args I was going to but didn't

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    Quit it will ya? I sold mine today....this GS lark better be all it's cracked up to be,,
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  12. iswoolley

    iswoolley Restless traveller

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    I hate it when people line themselves up for a disappointment! :nod

    Iain :thumb
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  13. O'Hooligan

    O'Hooligan Ken Dodd's dads dogs dead

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    Just recently bought a 90 Transalp and really liking it, except for the stock seat. Anyone have any suggestions for improvement (not Corbin) to stop me sliding into the tank! Has anyone made any "home-improvements" on the seat?

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  14. iswoolley

    iswoolley Restless traveller

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    Just a thought, but you might have more luck in the Transalp modification thread. :evil

    Iain :thumb
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  15. kimangao

    kimangao Been here awhile

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    Hi Mates,
    some AT pics for the Weekend:

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    Sinai, Egypt, AT RD07


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    Sinai, Egypt, AT RD 03


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    They're all AT's: RD03, two RD07 Great Eastern Erg, Algeria


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    Fort Sif Fatima, Algeria


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    Tunesia, RD 07

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    Lake Van, Turkey, RD07


    Hope you enjoyed.
    Have a nice one

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  16. modrover

    modrover BOOMSHANKA!

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    HOLY SHIT MATE! :thumb

    It don't get much better than that! :nod
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  17. modrover

    modrover BOOMSHANKA!

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    I really like how the white AT has been modified. Removed all the cowl bits and installed that small enduro light. :thumb Nice higher fender too. :thumb
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  18. kimangao

    kimangao Been here awhile

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    Hi Modover,

    the styling is a kind of homebrew. I found some more pics of my 2003 Algeria trip (the 2004 Arabia and NZ pics are still to be scanned)

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    Bevor I set off for Arabia I modified this and that (Elkamet tank, TT aluminium panniers, TT crashbar..). Well after I scanned some of the slides I'll post some pics.

    Cheers

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  19. XTreme

    XTreme Mucho Macho

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    Fantastic photos again Dirk! :thumb
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  20. modrover

    modrover BOOMSHANKA!

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    Dirk,

    Great! THAT is the way to use an AT! :thumb

    That AT looks so in its element.

    It appears the front cowl was actually still used... just cut down. Cool. That really is a great looking bike. :nod
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