This is good discussion here. I certainly understand everyone’s’ point. @Ginger Beard, I hope things continue recovering for you and it’s great to see you taking an active approach to that. You taking an active approach just reinforces my statement. It’s that while we can’t control everything and time and injuries take it’s toll, giving up is not the way to go about it as you yourself are showing. There is also a big difference in cutting back or doing things differently because of an injury vs. rolling over based on age. The age thing is stated over and over here in the forums and I’m sure we can all think of an example from our personal lives of hearing that in just the past week. The man I reference above is Dr. Karl Goldkamp. I would encourage everyone to look him up and read his story. By medical accounts he should be dead. But as @Madman4049 referenced, he wanted it (life) bad enough. Just goes to show we may never be where we were, but there is always room to fight for more than where we are.