The big KTM adventure bikes and size

Discussion in 'Dakar champion (950/990)' started by PFSGATORS, Nov 6, 2019.

  1. PFSGATORS

    PFSGATORS Adventurer

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    Speaking in generalizations, the 900ish thru the 1200ish adventure bikes, are they all basically the same size and weight? 990, 1090, 1190 and 1290-- thanks
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  2. gearheadE30

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    Weights are all different but typically 500-560 lbs ready to ride for the ones you listed. Dimensions are similar on paper but the later bikes feel bigger than the 990 because of the tank design. Of course the 1290 feels the biggest with that giant fuel tank. They all carry their weight differently, and different suspension setups between them have a big impact on how heavy they feel when riding.
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  3. DerViking

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    I found the 1090 I rode to be much narrower at the knees than my 990. But, they raised the seat to make space for the battery. I'm long legged, but didn't like it, a disadvantage off road.

    Generalizing, the 990 was built to tumble through the dunes, the others less so.
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    The 990 bikes are oranger.
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  5. zimtim

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    The 950 are the only true Dakar bike

    I rode the 1290 last year and although its seat seamed narrower than my 950 making it slightly easier for me to put my foot down.
    I found the petrol tank very wide which pushed my knees out wide and ended up giving me pains in my hips and groin, bringing on my sciatica.
    Still a well balanced bike and fun to ride, but was really glad to get back on the old 950.
    I have always found this website helpful when trying to find out about bikes
    https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/
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  6. PFSGATORS

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    Oranger makes them more better
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  7. johnno950

    johnno950 Long timer

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    Get lot of turbulance from the 1290
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    mountaincadre Long timer

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    And faster.
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  9. Rips Millar

    Rips Millar capt. mediocre

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    you guys are not making me feel good about sellin my 990 for a 1290....
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  10. zimtim

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    For a 1090r or an 1190 yes maybe but not for a1290.
    Although getting old now I personally think the 9*0 is a better more everyday usable bike than the 1290, be it touring, trail riding , or just commuting
    Just MHO
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  11. braaap!

    braaap! Long timer Supporter

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    Or a 790R for that matter... :brow
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  12. PFSGATORS

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    I find the look of the 790 repulsive with the tank hanging out like it is--
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    Bowser Been here awhile

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    790 is a few kilo lighter but only few, and 990 more power but again only a bit, certainly not enough of a difference to make me change
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    braaap! Long timer Supporter

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    Go on... Take one for a spin :)
    The only thing they have in common is that they’re motorcycles... 2 very competent and thrilling motorcycles!

    Having one of each is not like being a polygamist... really, sorta :)
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    ...then we have completed our job.
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  16. zimtim

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    You've all probably seen this and I am sure it has been posted on here before now.
    But still worth a look
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  17. Koen

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    How much power do you need then? are those 100+ hp really needed offroad? (or on road for that matter?) I think the 790 holds some nice features which might be nice for less experienced offroaders. Traction control, abs, some more settings here and there.

    anyway, i didn't like the bigger KTMs much as the looked more (road)travel based and the 990 was still a bit more offroad based.
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    I've had many'a man dust me on older, smaller, lees "cool" bikes, and I've made many'a man look slow on my "old" 950. The GREAT majority of today's modern motorcycles are far more capable than the average rider on them. That's always been the case and it always will be. As a the man says: "It's not the arrow, its the Indian."
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  19. PFSGATORS

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    Had the opportunity to ride a friends 1090 today. Just can't adjust to the size of these things having been on KTM 400/450's the last decade. Something about having the gas tank up around your chest kinda freaks me out. The bike fit me pretty good though, able to stand and ride comfortably. I think I would get used to it --
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  20. DesertSurfer

    DesertSurfer Tail sprayin

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    When I bought my Adv950 I didn’t think it was going to be light, nimble nor easy to ride. I didn’t buy it to ride pavement on it. I didn’t buy it figuring I’d do long touring rides. I could tell from the overall dimensions and weight that it would require some muscling about to get it where it needed.

    From the get go I’ve constantly been surprised how it has exceeds my expectations in all areas... for a big bike.

    I enjoy riding it on pavement, long touring rides and everywhere in between. But I also enjoy the fact it is a rather large and at times clumsy bike that requires a good bit of finesse. And gives you back a bunch of feedback.

    I rode an 1190 when it first came out. That motor spun like a top, but the ride felt a bit artificial to my liking. And the tank and body panels seemed way to complicated for its needs... as do the 1090 and 1290.

    Don’t get me wrong, the new bikes are technological feats. But the analogue feel of my Adv 950 adds to the fun of manhandling this bike through the desert, fire roads or splitting lanes of traffic.

    Most importantly to me is how well it takes a get off. There are generally no fire sales with this bike. Provided you know how to isolate your mirrors... it generally will scuff on the lower tank slider, bar end and foot peg, maybe sand scuff on the upper tank. Just lift it up and keep going.
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