The Blackbird Appreciation Thread

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by cplus, Sep 10, 2011.

  1. Sir Denis Eton-Hogg

    Sir Denis Eton-Hogg Tap into America Supporter

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    So, I have decided I want to buy a Blackbird, are there any particular years that are better than others?

    I know the early ones had carbs and then went to FI, I read the early FIs had some minor low down throttle response issues but the FI got better as the years moved along.

    Thoughts???, I'm not in a rush though if the right bike came along I'd jump on it.

    Thx in advance, feel free to pm me.
  2. Hank.SD

    Hank.SD Jet Measurer

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    I had the book ends - a 97 and an 03. I'm not afraid of carbs, some people are and it can be a deciding factor. Both of my bikes had 4-1 exhausts. The carbed bike also had an ignition advancer and a jet kit. The FI bike was otherwise stock.
    The carbed 97 was much quicker.
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  3. Cat0020

    Cat0020 El cheapo

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    Any difference in running temperature between 97 vs 03 models?

    I find the 03 FI models run much higher temp than my old 98 carb'ed model, 170F vs 200F.
  4. Mazaev

    Mazaev Been here awhile

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    So I was looking for something in an old photos folder yesterday and came across some track video of my old '99 BB from a few years back. Figured you guys might get a kick out of it.. it's a session at NJMP Thunderbolt in intermediate group. Really making me miss that bike.

    Re: Which year to get above... I had a '99 and a buddy of mine had an 03. I liked the older gauges better on the 99, and I think it made a little more power. I also had fewer overheating problems riding it around town than him. Just add a bit of water wetter with the coolant and it takes it down just enough not to be an issue.

  5. Cat0020

    Cat0020 El cheapo

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    They let you kept the mirrors on the track?
  6. Mazaev

    Mazaev Been here awhile

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    Long as they're taped up it's not an issue. The faster groups where you have to safety wire stuff are probably more strict with that.
  7. Drop_Center

    Drop_Center Long timer

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    Yes cooler, but I don’t remember why.
  8. Desert Silver

    Desert Silver Desert Rat

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    I believe the carbed XX has a sperate oil cooler where the FI XX has it in the radiator. My 98 use to run cool but I had water wetter, a yosh full system and a jet kit.
  9. jet123

    jet123 Using all my gears Supporter

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    Just bought a 99...daaaaaaaaaang it's smooth!

    Anybody have any Convertibars to sell me??
  10. viajero

    viajero Too old to be a nOOb

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    I still have a set of 5th gen VFR bars if you'd rather have those.
  11. jet123

    jet123 Using all my gears Supporter

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    Appreciate that, but I have some version of VFRs on there now (~1.5" rise?)... just thinking a bit higher/back is the ticket.
  12. Drop_Center

    Drop_Center Long timer

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    I was unhappy with mine, got them straight form convertibars and they had been installed before. Emailed and called for weeks. They suck as a company. Go Apex if you can


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  13. jet123

    jet123 Using all my gears Supporter

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    Good timing as I just found Apex.

    Unhappy with Convertibars as a company or a product?
  14. Creekgeek

    Creekgeek Master Finger Painter

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    How do your raised bars do clearing the fairing?
  15. jet123

    jet123 Using all my gears Supporter

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    On my BB, there are VFR clip-ons (not sure what generation of VFR clip-ons they are though). I believe I have a double bubble screen and there is still some space at full turn...so nothing was done on my bike.

    I have heard of some people trimming the shield, but that likely depends on what shield it is (if you need to)
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  16. Hobbomock

    Hobbomock I's wide open

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    It's a classic

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  17. Creekgeek

    Creekgeek Master Finger Painter

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    Those are bar RISERS!
  18. Drop_Center

    Drop_Center Long timer

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    As a company, I like my bars a lot. Huge difference on this bike
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  19. jet123

    jet123 Using all my gears Supporter

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    Bars and cables ordered...
    New seat in 6 weeks (maybe sooner)...
    Let's make a comfortable missile :lol3
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  20. -Tom-

    -Tom- Adventurer

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    Late reply - but yeah injection Birds run hotter than the carbies, the bike itself is a bit challenging to keep cool at city speeds, full fairing and all, but on the injection Birds small portion of radiator is covered by the oil cooler, which certainly doesn't help with the cooling, and because of that setup, the radiator is placed pretty close to the headers. Carbies have their rads to themselves, oil cooler separate, and more distance from the headers.
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