the DR650 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by sleepywombat, May 1, 2006.

  1. Nogoodnamesleft

    Nogoodnamesleft Long timer

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    Perhaps a good thing..

    I don’t need a vinyl bug.. way to easy online nowadays..
    And it would feel like cheating if that makes sense. :thumb
  2. NC Rick

    NC Rick Cogent Dynamics Inc

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    Both times Julio and I rode "Slick Rock" we were nearly alone. That first time I felt like we owned the whole place, it was the two of us experiencing this crazy and beautiful geology, unlike any I had ever seen! The place has a reputation and I was intimidated, a little scared of what would come around the next corner or over the next crest. Also, many climbs looked unridable and when I was on them, I could only think of the consequences of not being successful. Every inch of that trail was an incredible thing and so extremely exhilarating, a real accomplishment and adventure. An amazing time. This last years second time was also fantastic but so different knowing we would not die and we could ride it all without problems. Julio has such great balance and finesse on that big bike, it was fun to watch and much of the time we tried to clean all of the trail without going off the white "line" and not dab a foot. It was hot, I was truly exhausted near the end, spent from the concentration and work of high speed "trials" riding. Just great! At the end of the trails, I gave up, slowed way down and just followed out of there for a great couple beers and blue fizz with great friends. Telling the stories are even great! Joyce, the two Steve's, Phil and us had a hell of a warm up with top of the world and fins n things to warm up. Bergdonk stoped on a hill that was nothing short of scary and Joyce decided to wheelie up the hill and wheeling is not in her riding experience. I nearly swallowed my tongue! Good times.
  3. TwoUpTourer

    TwoUpTourer Long timer

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  4. procycle

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    Rolled in back home late last night. That was a bit of a marathon. 2500 mile (4000 km) round trip. 4 days with a full day of packing and trailer loading squeezed into the middle of it. Then today I took it all to my brother's house. Hardly any interaction with other people. Traffic was very light most of the way but I did observe that with half the traffic other people on the road were paying half as much attention :bash
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  5. BergDonk

    BergDonk Old Enough to Know Better

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  6. themandan

    themandan Been here awhile

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    I tried that, just get a "no entry" symbol
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  7. Precis

    Precis Maladroit malcontent

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    Integral brakes worked on my Guzzi 45 years ago and you don't get much simpler than an air-cooled V-twin with points ignition....
    "Nothing New Under The Sun" department?
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  8. themandan

    themandan Been here awhile

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    They still work on mine, but then my Convert is 46 years old.:-)
  9. JRowland

    JRowland reaching for the sky Supporter

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    One of my favorite Roy Orbison songs by my earliest crush.

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  10. NC Rick

    NC Rick Cogent Dynamics Inc

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    Our V50 had that setup. Iirc the rear peddle worked the rear and one of the front disks with the other front run by the right lever on the bars as doG intended. It was pretty seamless for regular riding. Not ideal for high performance riding but a safety benefit for many.
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  11. chethro

    chethro Been here awhile

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    I like the how the AT sits too. I even like the seat. Just be sure to read up on the fork issues with the base model.

    The main reasons it went off my list is I don't plan on getting rid of the DR, so I don't need another dirt focused machine, I wanted tubeless rims and cost.

    They are very nice bikes tho. So many nice bikes, but not enough cash and garage space for me.

    I think I have made my decision. Looking at getting this MG V7 Carbon dark, if they still have it in a week. It will need things too. Taller seat, higher bars, windscreen, suspension eventually and some Agostini pipes. I can take my time and just add bits a little at a time. I'll start with the bars and a windscreen....

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  12. Copracer288

    Copracer288 How hard can it be?

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    I am not a fan of linked brakes on a motorcycle. The bike will, of course, react very differently depending on which brake is activated and/or how much pressure is applied to each brake. I want to make those decisions so the bike reacts the way I want it to.

    Now, if you botch those activations, bad things can happen so I can see some safety aspect to linked brakes but braking effectively with a motorcycle is a skill (a set of skills really) and linked brakes prevents the rider from developing those skills. You can argue that braking with a bike that has linked brakes is it's own skill set (and it is) but counterproductive to developing good braking skills. IMHO of course.
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  13. Schmokel

    Schmokel I got band for a fat joke.

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    Dad's VFR has them. Pretty slick setup. He had a Nighthawk waaaaaay back when, and went to lock up the brakes. That damned bike wobbled all over. He sold it immediately. Went to the dealer and that was the first thing he asked about; brakes. They showed up the VFR. Rode it home that day. This was in...1999? 2000?
  14. NC Rick

    NC Rick Cogent Dynamics Inc

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    I think once linked braking is combined with ABS and computers, it's probably an advantage for many. For sure it takes some more of the control from the rider. As riders, people have more powerful computers in our heads they happen to be much harder to program vs the soldered together, silicon based ones.
  15. JRowland

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    My favorite color combo! I hope it’s still there in a week too, I want to see pics in the wild :thumb
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  16. boulet_boulet

    boulet_boulet Long timer

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    If anyone is looking for a spare BST, there is one for cheap in the New England Flea Market.

    No affiliation, caveat emptor, YMMV and all those things.
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  17. Hivernaut

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    Friends kid is doing traffic.
    Says his speeding count has doubled.
    People taking advantage of the open road.
    I'm glad he's doing htat and not domestics.
  18. spklbuk

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    I used to think I didn't be like linked ABS. One late summer afternoon on my FJR I was tucked and sailing low on one of WVs finest paved reaches. Just before the crest of rise and coming up on a Kroger cruiser I let off, mom fades well to the right with brake lights on and one wheel set into the gravel in the beginning of a tractor trailer-sized pull off and I fade left thinking she is pulling over. We are now past the crest. I continue with my plan and am milliseconds from getting back on the throttle as soon as her driver's side wheels are on the gravel. WRONG! With no warning, no signal, nothing mom hustles her mini-van square left! heading into a one-lane paved road hidden by the crest leaving me no quarter. I crank down on both whoa levers, distinctly feel the ABS pulsing and hear the rear squealing intermittently and find myself trying to decide the softest place to broadside her. My trajectory took me thru about 10-feet of gravel cutting short the square corner where the two roads met and I was now hoping for a low side into her rear wheel. Next thing I know I am riding up the one lane road parallel to mom's driver window and she looks over horrified as to where the hell did you come from and why are you threatening my babies! First time she had seen me!! I nodded, slowed, managed a u-ee at a turn out resumed course at a more sane pace.

    Total technology takeover, near-zero Rider skill...linked ABS is why I can type this 15 years later. I became an instant believer. The whole scene replays in my head every time I pass that intersection; it was one of those experiences.
  19. Redfish Hunter

    Redfish Hunter Long timer Supporter

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    My old ST1300 had a pretty complex linked braking system but it worked seamlessly and I rarely ever noticed it unless I was on the brakes HARD. For all of the ordinary braking everything worked like there was nothing extra happening. It was only there when the extra safety net was appreciated. It was linked front to back and back to front and even had an extra "master cylinder" pivoting off the left front caliper. It was not much fun at brake bleeding time.

    My FJR has a much simpler and even less intrusive system. Again, during regular braking it is never noticed because it isn't doing anything. If I were to apply a LOT of rear brake there would be some force bled through to one set of pistons on the right front caliper. The FJR has ABS as well.

    Should I feel guilty for having that extra technology? I don't. I am just grateful for anything that keeps me from crashing.

    Riding my DR650 is a completely different experience, especially in the rain with the stock TrailWings. The TrailWings do NOT like wet pavement.
  20. Copracer288

    Copracer288 How hard can it be?

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    ABS I like. I do prefer the option to turn each wheel on/off or, at least, the system on or off.

    It's the linked braking I don't like.
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