The Ducati ST2/3/4 Thread

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  1. Oilhed

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    I bought mine, a 2005, New in 2006, for $11,000! When I totaled it in 2011 Progressive gave me more than $7,000!

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  2. CaribooBC

    CaribooBC life is an adventure

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    So, to make my $3500 deal even a bit better. It has the following upgrades: Leo Vince SBK slip ons, Sergeant seat, Ohlins rear shock with less than 3K miles, Oxford heated grips, Heli bar risers, newer aftermarket clutch slave cylinder and clutch and sprocket covers, new Ducati clutch, including basket and both sets of plates and a Givi rear rack (no top box, seller kept it). I think I did ok, but I had to drive 22 hours to get it.
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  3. pitbull

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    That's a nice list of farkles. I think you did very well.

    Look for a ducati designs headlight, which is a dual headlight that was made by an ST aficionado and sold for a number of years. I don't think he makes them anymore, but if you can find one used from someone it's one of the best upgrades for the bike. It's a massive improvement if you plan to ride after dark and it looks better than the stock headlight.
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  4. Oilhed

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    I think the ST3 & ST4S headlight was pretty good. Far from the ST2.
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  5. pitbull

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    Actually, stupid me.

    You're right, the ST3 had a much better headlight and ducati designs didn't make a headlight for that model.

    Ducati Designs only made the aftermarket headlight for the first gen fairing (ST2/4 and 4s)
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  6. jc_ducati

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    A couple of snaps from the second annual STathon here in Oz (Tumbarumba).
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  7. Bobdog

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    I am considering a two different STs. They are around the same price and miles. One is a 2000 ST4 and the other is a 2004 ST3. Both have the hard bags and seem pretty similar in regards to wear and tear. I know about the different engines and that 2004 was the first year for a update. Is it that big of a upgrade to rule out the older bike, or is it still just as good?.
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  8. rd400racer

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    Completely different engines and maintenance issues. One is easy, the other is difficult (depending on your expertise). In the long run, I'd go ST3. ST4 is basically a touring 916...if that's your thing, go for it.
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  9. pitbull

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    You can't go wrong with either, but my personal preference would be the ST4. I like the look of the first generation better and I like the 916 engine better, but that's completely subjective.
    Power and performance will be about the same with the ST3 being a little smoother. The 3 valve per cylinder is obviously going to be a little cheaper if you're paying for someone to do valve adjustments vs the 4 valve per cylinder bikes.
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  10. st3ryder

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    From most accounts I've read from owners with cross model experience, the ST3 is the most difficult desmo head to service re shim swaps. The mechanic at my "local" Ducati shop told me that once too. As I've ever only worked on my ST3, I can't compare with duos or quattros, but it can be a PITA some times that's for sure, especially having to deal with the springs when swapping out closers. But in the big picture, as in compared to some other brands, probably not the worst by any means. :-)The performance between the 992 tre and the 916 quattro is a wash.
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  11. Oilhed

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    The St3 are all second gen. styling. All ST3 are wet clutch (I like). The first gen. headlights are useless. 2004 & 2005 had open loop EFI. Later were closed loop (O2 sensor in pipe).
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  12. rd400racer

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    Very interesting info. I only have a basic 2V Monster and an ST2, but I always thought the ST4 was world's faster than the 3. Thanks for the education.
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  13. st3ryder

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    Ducati guru from down under, Brad Black, wrote in an article many years ago re ST3 performance, that he thought Ducati deliberately held back on its developement, as in valve size, so not to compete with the ST4*s*, i.e. the 996 engine. Even against the 996, the tre performs fairly well, until maybe 110 mph, they are very close. Then the four pulls away with a much higher top speed. Another tidbit for you. The base tre is lighter than an ST4s. ABS weight. ;-) But I consider the 2005 ST4s as the best of the ST series IMO.
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  14. Bobdog

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    As for experience this would be my first Ducati, but not first bike. Thanks for the info about the different issues with each bike. I would probably be doing most services and minor repairs.
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  15. taprackready

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    1998 ST2. Great bike except for the charging system. One year only charging system and spotty reliability.

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  16. CaribooBC

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    My 04 ST3 has a dry clutch, the ST3 did not go wet until 2005, I believe. I like it dry!
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  17. Oilhed

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    I never knew that
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  19. Dry509

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    Which Ducati do you have.
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  20. st3ryder

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    2005 ST3. Bought new, still in the crate. 60K virtually trouble free miles. Expect another 60K of the same. :)
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