What you refuse to realize is that my views on HD are shared by millions of motorcyclists worldwide. That is the reason for the unique-to-HD phenomenon called "Harley-bashing." Everything has a reason, and refusing to accept it won't make it go away. What makes me "that guy" in your mind is that I'm willing to talk about it, to shine a light where some would rather not see. Normally I don't engage in such matters because it generally goes nowhere, usually accompanied by angry words and more severe tribalism. But today, things are different. HD is literally fighting for its life, and the faithful still refuse to see what got them there. Think about it. There is no other brand except maybe Ducati that elicits such slavish adoration to the brand. Brand loyalty in general is much less of a thing these days. (Kinda sooo 20th century.) The only way it works for HD is to take it to a ridiculous extreme, to the point that it's more of a culture or lifestyle than a brand. Face it - the bikes just aren't that special. And more and more of today's buyers are so not into a club or lifestyle, especially not this one. All the adoration for today's Harleys simply makes no sense to a huge segment of the riding public, to the extent that it actually acts as a strong repellent. And the 'dominance' of the brand is everything to another. Such a sharply divided market is death to any manufacturer that depends so heavily on the division being in their favor, when it starts shifting away. That's where HD is now. At the very least, they need to start appealing to whoever is in the middle ground, growing it if possible, and there may actually be some promise there. But they need to temper the attitude, because that is the repellent that makes their brand so toxic to so many. That divide has existed for decades. Now it's becoming literally existentially important. Why would anyone concerned with HD's future refuse to acknowledge that fact? Ignoring reality will only hasten its trajectory.