Well I got to ride a LiveWire the other day at San Jose HD. It was kind of lame demo ride we took 2 livewires out around the block but it was fun. I got harassed by Ron the owner or manager of the dealership for just wanting to come in and ride it and have zero intentions of buying it. That's what I straight up said when I came in too, they asked me if I was going to buy or take it out for a joy ride. I didn't lie I straight up told them I just wanted to ride it. Harley Davidson keeps on showing my these ads about test riding a HD and they work but this dealership experience was cringe. I filled out the test ride request and got no reply. Couple days before the scheduled demo ride I get an email from HD whether anyone contacted me about the demo ride and I chose the NO I was not contacted option. Demo day comes and I get no reply still and I don't feel like riding it now. So two days later I'm in the area and said hey what the hell lets just pop in at HD and see if we can ride one and I was able to do a very short test ride, no freeway also. They told me only recently had they started to allow people to ride them. (I'm just laughing thinking to myself it's probably because they aren't selling them). He even said he watched my video of my last experience, so you can bet I will have a video about my customer experience there. Never have I left a dealership with a bad experience and this is the 2nd time. Everything was fine until Ron opened his mouth. You can bet if I wanted to buy a Livewire I wouldn't buy it at that dealership. Anyway I rode it I liked it. But do I like it more than an Energica or Zero? Not really its about the same and it's $10,000+ more. This is a case of the Energica is faster and better and cost 1/3 less. I heard you can even buy an older certified pre owned energica for like $15k also. It was a lot like riding the SR/F I suppose it made a little more noise than the SR/F/S. The riding position is very sporty like it has drag bars and your knees are bent a lot but it's still a mid controls. It was narrow too more narrow than the SR/F, it didn't feel heavy but I got so little ride time on it it's hard to tell and I didn't get enough time to try out all the doodads and gizmos on it. I think if they just got rid of all those doodads and gizmos they could bring the price down. Maybe i don't need cruise control, or blue tooth, infotainment, security system, etc... All I'm saying is there's better out there for less and other mainstream manufacturers are coming with their electrics in the future so HD is gonna be hard to sell. GLWS HD! They had 4 of them sitting in the show room, so if you want one now you can buy one, but that's why they're sitting there they're not selling =P Might be a good deal in a year or so when they're collecting dust in the showroom! Yup that's my KLR I like the black one BTW, would be nice if that had a midnight blue though Ouch Not a big fan of all these buttons, typical HD stuff I guess.