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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by neepuk, Mar 6, 2015.
Oil has to be going somewhere, it just doesn't disappear.
Can't argue with that, but I've been over the engine multiple times, I have a small amount of seepage from one of the oil screen bolts, other than that, no leakage. Doesn't smoke on startup and riding buddies say it isn't smoking while riding either...
Rings not seating or seated properly on break-in?
...see info on not running synthetic too early on break in and 1st oil change. Some go back to running regular oil to try and reseat rings. I always do a lot of repeated accel/decel runs on my new bikes.
I think that would result in BLUE smoke.
A PITA way to check rings and/or valves. Perform a compression check. Do about 4 checks and take average. Drop a tablespoon of oil down the spark plug hole. Perform another compression check. No or little change in compression, rings not seated properly. Oil Pressure goes up, would indicate a value not seated properly. Of course, there has to be definitive evidence of oil usage other than simply disappearing without a trace.
Perhaps that huge catalytic converter/muffler is masking the blue smoke that would be coming out the exhaust in an oil burning situation?
Hopefully KTM does something about it. I had the same thought about the cat masking the smoke.
I agree on the cat incinerating the oil as a potential issue.
If KTM comes up short, do you have a buddy with a cooler, non-cat exhaust (Wings, Akrapovic)? Slip one of those on, do the 15-minute reset and see if you have smoke coming out the back.
EXCELLENT point about CAT/silencer masking smoke!
Thanks guys great points... I rechecked the airbox yesterday and there was a bit of oil pooling in it. Also some oil seepage from the boots at the throttle body. So I think this oil is being forced up the vent tubes and back into intake from blow by. Likely rings haven't seated.
I read up quite a bit on break in before I got the bike and did lots of hard accels and decels, and just generally worked it well through the gears, but nothing crazy and generally kept below 6000rpm. It used oil during break in as well, but I thought that was to be expected a bit.
Anyways, I called ktm on my own and one of their guys recommended changing to a mineral oil, Motorex Legend. I just feel like it's too late for that, at 3000k if it hasn't happened yet will it?
But currently dealing with dealership so I'm going to hold off on doing anything myself.
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Does adding a slip on affect warranty?
I would take it out and run the piss out of it . At this point what do you have to lose ? I would have run the piss out of it from the start .
Oh believe me, I have been since the first service... no real change in consumption. I think the question now is should I be running the piss out of it with mineral oil in there rather than synthetic. I'll hear in the next few days from the dealer/KTM...
I wanted to bring this up earlier but figured most would debate it with no major evidence of smoke. A guy I work with has a riding buddy going through this now on his newer 690. He brought it to the dealer and they sent him home with an oil change asking him to "ride it for a while to see if it changes". Nothing conclusive.
Hopefully your dealer can perform all the appropriate checks. Good luck on it.
Driving home today and looked in my re-view mirror.. WOW, perfect fit.. 2015 690 R enduro...
Let the credit card games begin... Time to order some stuff. I ordered a skid-plate and KTM fly-screen before I even bought this bike..
Can someone tell me what kind of warranty is on this thing? Is it 12 months -- 12,000 miles? Could not find anything in the manual except "You must have a dealer service your bike" Or it is void crap..
I also have just bought a 2015 and have bought/done the following
Perun tank bolt kit
Perun rear rack
Superplush suspension rebuild
BMC air filter
Scotts undermount steering dampener
Cyclops NXG lights
Garmin Zumo GPS
Cleanspeed rear brake pedal
Lower temp fan switch
And I have about 500 miles on it and thinkmI'm gonna really like it but I haven't done any hard offroad but will sometime soon
Congratulations to both of you!
Keep us posted on how the SP upgrade works for you. I see you own and ride various bikes, including the FE 390, so I can imagine you appreciate a bike that handles well. I'm interested in your eventual feedback on the off road handling of the 690E with the suspension upgrades. thx.
Don't forget to hit the credit card up a Camel Toe ! First time you use the factory jiffy stand in dirt, you'll be pickup up your new steed! Camel toe is not inexpensive, but then, nothing for this scoot is cheap! If you do opt for a Camel Toe, consider filing the bottom holes square for a carriage bolt. They ship with regular bolts and the bolt heads will eventually grind off. The design needs improvement, but, I like the look. If you have access to a welding machine, simply weld up the bottom holes and weld threaded rod to the bottom shoe facing up for the nuts to attach. A lot of modification to a product that should be designed RIGHT to begin with given the cost.
I'm not having any luck locating a 14 tooth front sprocket for my 14, 690. Anyone know who sells them?
You need to get one of the older lc4
Thanks. Just ordered my Rekluse clutch today. Looking to get the 14 tooth also to get 690 better suited for the woods.