The SWM RS650R It's finally here owners thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by blackSP, Jan 29, 2016.

?

Huh, what, SWM 650 Enduro?

  1. Yes, I want one of those, 630 lives!

    137 vote(s)
    84.6%
  2. Not for me, no no no

    25 vote(s)
    15.4%
  1. L_Bomb

    L_Bomb Strewth and blimey

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2013
    Oddometer:
    228
    Location:
    Perth Straya
    The standard forks were 45mm Marzocchi Shivers with 210mm travel. The TE510 forks are 50mm Marzocchi Shivers with 300mm travel. I had to use the TE510 triple clamps and brake caliper bracket to make them fit the bike. The dash and key would not fit the TE510 triple clamps but that didn't bother me with the lynx fairing
  2. vsaltao

    vsaltao Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2013
    Oddometer:
    229
    Location:
    Portugal
    If i find my te250 rebuild forks damn good i can only imagine those :) .
    L_Bomb likes this.
  3. slicker

    slicker Adventurer Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2019
    Oddometer:
    15
    Location:
    Bombay, New Zealand
    L_Bomb your mount looks good. Can you give us some more information about the revalving and revised springs? Got any specs.

    I've heard that if they do break in the frame thread they are difficult to remove. I drilled out my subframe threads and put high tensile bolts with nuts. That way you can easily put a spare in.
  4. L_Bomb

    L_Bomb Strewth and blimey

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2013
    Oddometer:
    228
    Location:
    Perth Straya
    Hey slicker,
    A guy here in Perth did the forks for me. He is renowned for working magic with dirt bike suspension. I didn't get any specs from him on what he changed sorry. I just told him my weight, the bike weight and riding style. He said the marzocchis are a pain to sort out as the factory valving is so bad!

    With the subframe bolts, I had one snap in the frame already so I drilled them out and put in high tensile bolts with backing nuts and Loctite. It looks like the Loctite has let go after about 5000km. At least the bolt is still holding up. I might pull it out and check for damage just to be sure.
  5. L_Bomb

    L_Bomb Strewth and blimey

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2013
    Oddometer:
    228
    Location:
    Perth Straya
    This is the box my fork springs were returned in
    IMG_20200429_123400.jpg
    Rotax655 likes this.
  6. innathyzit

    innathyzit AKA Woodman

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2008
    Oddometer:
    2,838
    Location:
    Nelson NZ
    Fyi, if you are using te250 forks,, which slide right in, then crf1000 springs from racetech work. I need to change the valving on mine because they are too harsh when riding slow. Fast is fine. Use 10mm bolts and nuts for subframe.
    CapeG650X, vsaltao and L_Bomb like this.
  7. Rotax655

    Rotax655 Aprilia World Meeting

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2009
    Oddometer:
    682
    Location:
    If I can around the world
    guys can someone explain how to eliminate the lambda probe? is there a connector that you can buy? thank you
  8. mrsdnf

    mrsdnf Long timer

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2019
    Oddometer:
    1,236
    Location:
    Lost between the Dandenongs and Yarra Valley
    Not that I'm aware of. Different electronics to the Husky. Any particular reason you want to get rid of it?
  9. Rotax655

    Rotax655 Aprilia World Meeting

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2009
    Oddometer:
    682
    Location:
    If I can around the world
    the problem and a friend with swm rs650r. has "uncertainties" of the engine at low speed and on difficult sections at low speed
    mrsdnf likes this.
  10. innathyzit

    innathyzit AKA Woodman

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2008
    Oddometer:
    2,838
    Location:
    Nelson NZ
    I put a resistor in mine after the arrow remap but it didn't run nice down low so I put the probe back in and it ran way better. Still hesitant but only really noticeable in slow traffic, which is basically a non-issue.
    cyclopathic, Rotax655 and mrsdnf like this.
  11. CapeG650X

    CapeG650X Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2009
    Oddometer:
    266
    Location:
    Kalgoorlie
    TE 250 fork upgrade with 5.2N/mm springs, unfortunately i had the Fastace forks with 300mm disc, so was a bit of stuffing around to swap calliper etc but well worth it. Also fitted a $20 brake tip a bit lower than std. 20200620_162449.jpg 20200620_162434.jpg
    vsaltao, L_Bomb, cyclopathic and 3 others like this.
  12. mrsdnf

    mrsdnf Long timer

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2019
    Oddometer:
    1,236
    Location:
    Lost between the Dandenongs and Yarra Valley
    Looks good. Like the brake tip mod.
  13. Rotax655

    Rotax655 Aprilia World Meeting

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2009
    Oddometer:
    682
    Location:
    If I can around the world
    have you changed the final transmission ratios compared to the factory configuration 15/42?.

    this question and also for capeG650X. Thanks for the info
  14. cyclopathic

    cyclopathic Long timer

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2007
    Oddometer:
    9,614
    Get it to dealer and install Arrow map. And before that check valve clearance tight valves can cause it too.

    Issue most likely related to TPS sensor; programmer will calibrate TPS before new map upload.

    EFI operates in open loop you have to keep throttle constant for some time for EFI switch to close loop and start using oxygen/lambda.

    EDIT:
    Also before all that put a tankful of high grade gas through, preferably long highway run without shut off. The manual says about carbon deposits causing this.. I found it to be true in many countries, Italy including. When engine starts running rough I would get a tank of high grade from good brand name station and it would go away for awhile.
    Rotax655, mrsdnf and Syanur like this.
  15. innathyzit

    innathyzit AKA Woodman

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2008
    Oddometer:
    2,838
    Location:
    Nelson NZ
    I run15/43. Have tried 14/43 but went back as not necessary. The engine is so tractable it can handle the higher gear even in very slow going.
    vsaltao and Rotax655 like this.
  16. CapeG650X

    CapeG650X Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2009
    Oddometer:
    266
    Location:
    Kalgoorlie
    Im running the 40T from my SDX wheelset on the RS, fuel economy is important where i ride. Still has more than enough drive, i kept the 38T on my SD in most situations.
    Rotax655 likes this.
  17. vsaltao

    vsaltao Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2013
    Oddometer:
    229
    Location:
    Portugal
    I Run 15/45 and i do some hard almost enduro stuff and dont think she needs to be lower (maybe on very step downhill single tracks), i will probably go higher for the dualsport stuff so i can stay in 3rd (14/44 or 42 maybe).
    I have single pipe arrow map, also tryied the lambda eliminator (ktm 690 works) and it sucked :)
  18. Jabba

    Jabba "HOLD THE LIGHT!!!"

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2002
    Oddometer:
    13,049
    Location:
    Just east of the Pine Beatle- Evergreen, CO
    Can I ask where you found a brake tip that fit?
  19. CapeG650X

    CapeG650X Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2009
    Oddometer:
    266
    Location:
    Kalgoorlie
    Had to make an angled bracket and used an ebay Ktm brake tip.
    Jabba likes this.
  20. Rotax655

    Rotax655 Aprilia World Meeting

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2009
    Oddometer:
    682
    Location:
    If I can around the world
    hi how did you bypass the lambda probe? is there a connector to insert?