The XL600 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Gregster, Jul 6, 2007.

  1. scalpel

    scalpel Been here awhile

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    Good afternoon. My first post here. I am looking at possibly aquiring this XL600. Can anyone tell me exactly which model this is?

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  2. davek181

    davek181 Long timer

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    A modded XL will run as good as the XRR. My brother in law has both a stock XL and an XRR with the usual mods. They are quite different from each other. I flew out to visit him a time or two and we rode both bikes in the mountains of colorado, swapping on occasion so as to sample both. I greatly desired an XRR but couldn't pull the trigger on buying one, so I upgraded my XL with modern USD fork and rear shock revalved and replaced, XR crank with 102 piston yielding 654cc with 10.5:1 compression. I thought it ran ok, but still lusted for an XRR until I went to visit and rode the XRR again. I remember my very first impression as I rode it again and concluded before I even got through second gear that I preferred my XL. I liked the power and throttle response better, and the suspension was way better, especially the forks.

    Later he flew out here to visit and I took him out in the Idaho mountains on my bikes. He rode the XL, and at our first stop on the trail he had many questions as to what I had done. He agreed that it had everything the XRR had and maybe more. So a Honda 650 in various forms is a Honda 650. You can teach an old dog new tricks apparently.

    You still don't get the e-start though.
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  3. sh0rtlife

    sh0rtlife Long timer

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    having swapped in xr wheels a few times to test with vs without the drive, the drive actualy soaks up the "harsh" hits n grabs, on the street it protects the chain and sprockets only, but off road however if you do side by side tests youll feel like the bike is more linear in uneven grip situations its not something most guys would probably notice, where i really noticed it was in heavy washboard as well as exiting mud and snow you dont get as hard of a traction "kick" its kinda sprung and let go slowly, think of the drive as more of a shock system for traction changes, it smoooooths everything out nicely and prolongs chain and sprocket life as a bonus or think of it like a recoil stock on a gun for that matter, it simply takes a bit of the impact out and re-distributes it

    ive got an 84 xr250, which lets face it is a night n day comparision, i love the light and nimble of the 250, and for BIG crazy air i loved the way it soaked it up, but thats basicly where the love of the 250 ends, i tweaked my front end till it ended up feeling BETTER than the 250, the saddle is more comfortableon the xl as well, and the lack of the drive is actualy twice as noticeable on the 250
  4. XRLated

    XRLated Been here awhile Supporter

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    Oh, right! the XL has cush drive standard!

    I agree 100%.

    I added a Warp-9 cush drive to my XRL shortly after purchase:
    https://www.warp9racing.com/
    I think it is one of the must-do XRL upgrades and helped the XRL in all respects you mention above. Money well spent.

    I think it helped the XRL's throttle stumble somehow that I haven't quite figured out how.

    The XRL/XLR hybrid engine is really a great idea, as well as upgrading the XL suspension, etc. I'm thinking that bike really might be an XRL killer thanks to lighter weight, dual carbs, and less restricted flow.

    I do love my XRL, though, too! I'd probably need to make some hard decisions and sell it to have sufficient funds to do the XLR.

    Hmmm, lots of options... throw 1/3 of the XRL into my GB500 chassis that is still needing a power plant and electrics (engine, carb, wiring harness, CDI, etc., etc.), throw another 1/3 of the XRL into the XLR (Rox risers, front forks, triples(?),HDB gaurds, high-bend handlebars, etc., etc.), sell the last 1/3 of the XRL on ebay (frame, seat, tank, wheels, etc., etc.), to get enough cash to buy a hybrid XRL/XLR e-start engine from Steve to finish up the XLR!

    OK, I'm scaring myself.

    I love my XRL... but...

    Do the XRL triples fit the XLR neck? And, if so, I wonder what would need to be done to the rear shock to maintain rake? Race-Tech can make custom G3-S shocks to balance things out for the rear suspension. Would the XRL swingarm fit the XLR frame? Or just upgrade the OEM XLR suspension with gold valves and G3-S shock to maintain the OEM XLR stance?

    But I love my XRL, though. Not sure I could put her under the knife, sell her kidneys, so to speak. Ack!
  5. sh0rtlife

    sh0rtlife Long timer

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    i belive swapping the whole front end is just a need of changing a bearing? but a few guys here have done it, so someone can speak up, as for the swinger, i was under the impression that its a direct bolt on so youd be able to keep your warp9's n all or youd have to shim it?

    as for the rake change the factory xl swinger is the shortest of all the xr/xl's so swapping it should fix the rake, hell you can lowwer the forks in the tripple a little if needed, in fact with the swinger and fork swap id be suprised if you could flat foot the beast any more LOL i had to dial out most of my rear preload to even the bike out, im 6'4 38 inseam on 501's 210lbs, the xl6 sits perfectly for me, just barely flatfoot with my full weight on it

    if you were local id offer to make you a harness for the GB, making harnesses from scratch is easy, my 6 was gutted down to little more than a kill switch and coil, so i hand wired the whole thing, probably the 10th or so harnsess ive built for cars/bikes
  6. XRLated

    XRLated Been here awhile Supporter

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    Actuallly, hope to move to Portland in May.

    Sorry, another Caifornian crowding in, I know. But we love PNW and have been vacationing there and trying to make the move for years, and now we are actually bringing our jobs north with us.

    Except for not being able to split lanes like down here in California, you all are a paradise for bikes IMHO, particularly dual sports.
  7. richeyroo

    richeyroo XR650L, CRF450X,

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    20191019_160844.jpg My solution is an XR/Warp9/XL/600/500 hybrid.
    Basically an XR650L with a Warp9 hub, SMPro wheels, XL600LM 28 litre tank, XL500 panels to mimic early Dakar looks, an oil cooler under the head light, Renthal high rise bars, 14/45 gearing,
    It will get used. No point keeping it pristine. Hopefully off to Morocco next year
  8. davek181

    davek181 Long timer

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    XL cush too in XR arm, among other things IMG_6137_zpsekt2dujj.jpg
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  9. Homerb

    Homerb Been here awhile

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    XL600LMF
  10. scalpel

    scalpel Been here awhile

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    Thank you.
  11. RFVC600R

    RFVC600R No sand here :'(

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    Yo! IDK if you guys noticed, but there is a new ADV on 4wheels section here on ADV. I know some of you guys got some sweet rides!!!
  12. RFVC600R

    RFVC600R No sand here :'(

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    I was thinking about you and Steve and the other guys around here the other day when I seen an XL600R cruising down the road, glad to see you're still around!!
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  13. sh0rtlife

    sh0rtlife Long timer

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    you need to find the same accerbis headlight unit im using to finish that off..and lose the hella, im running the vintage africa twin
  14. richeyroo

    richeyroo XR650L, CRF450X,

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    I quite like the Hella. A lot of the 82/83/84 Dakar Hondas had a similar auxiliary light. Mine is independently switched so only gets used in very remote places.

    Which Acerbic headlight do you mean ?
  15. sh0rtlife

    sh0rtlife Long timer

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    this one, heck you could still keep the hella, i just think with all the rest of the bike going on your headlight looks TINY, and for the look you have going on its the only missing piece IMO
    [​IMG]
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  16. lookfar

    lookfar from the land of OZ Supporter

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    Well, I've done all I'm going to do on this one for now, been a big job just finding parts for it.

    1986 Honda XL600RMG.
    They were imported into Australia in limited numbers in '86-'87. Most went to the EU.
    Dunno how many are still getting around, but probably not many.

    It's twin carb, e-start as well as kick and tubeless type rims.

    IMG_1845.jpg IMG_1846.jpg
  17. sh0rtlife

    sh0rtlife Long timer

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    bizzar..its got the wheels i love, and e start twin carb, i never knew these existed, that brake disc is freakin me out tho

    as much as i hate the square frame bikes, i cant get over the body work, the way the tank n saddle come together is soo much better than stock. id kill for a set of those tank extension panels, those would be a sweet addition to any xl6
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  18. XRLated

    XRLated Been here awhile Supporter

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    What do the tank extension panels do?
  19. sh0rtlife

    sh0rtlife Long timer

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    if they are anything like what ive seen on the yamaha version of the xl's the XT's it helped "catch" air and direct it at the head, ive been sitting on a buddies xt350 for a year or more awaiting his funds for me to go thru it....and the air catchers are pretty cool looking and i eyeball my clarke tank and its small mounting points under the tank...ive tryed to figure out a way to make something similar...but making it out of "soft" yet stout plastic is not something i have the tools to do...i had no idea that a euro xl ever even came with something like them

    heres a random xt for referance
    [​IMG]
  20. XRLated

    XRLated Been here awhile Supporter

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    So similar to the xr650l "wings"