The Yamaha TW200 Thread...

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by neepuk, Jan 10, 2009.

  1. Randy

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    Yep, been reviewing specs and crunching the numbers of a bunch of bikes... things like seat height, weight, ground clearance, front and rear suspension travel, ergo triangle, lowering mods, etc... And then there are a few other factors such as aftermarket support for things like seats, tanks, racks, etc.... Just lots of considerations floating around in my mind. Don't plan to "replace" the TW as it's stayin'. Just thinking about adding something to the stable that will slot into my newfound interest in smaller dual sports and that will be good for doing a few specific sorts of things better than my current two. Kinda bridging the gap between the TW and the Himalayan, you might say... In the meantime I'm enjoying riding what I already have. But, dreaming and planning mods for "my next bike" has always been a big part of the fun of the hobby for me, so... :ricky

    And yeah, most all of the areas I tend to ride have limits of 45-55, so the top speed isn't a huge deal. But would like a bit more on top to allow for a bit more relaxed rpm at hwy speeds. Just because a bike will do 75 or more doesn't mean I'll actually go 75 or more. But a bike that will do that easily enough is typically better at 60-65 than a bike that is fairly well topped out at 60-65.
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  2. SpeedyTide

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    < This is my first motorcycle (bought in '05) street rode for around 9 months, found out about my local track, and the rest is history - mostly stock, and I'm a pretty good/fast rider on it being I generally wear the tires out!

    Now, I grew up on 3-wheelers - no fear on them, but I was young & knew the risks.

    Bought my TW end of June 2018, and my DR650 end of March 2019. I've put ~3,200 miles on the TW, and probably around 2k on the DR, with both being a mixture of paved & mainly dirt roads, being there aren't really trails or much technical riding near me. Therefore, I consider myself a decent off-roader when it does get slightly challenging (sugar sand, slick mud, etc.).
    Decent as I ride these low & slow, as that's what I find fun.

    The TW is all stock, and the DR is well set-up (aftermarket goodies), like TAT ready set-up - it's a Cadillac!! Would think it would be my favorite with it being far more comfortable ergonomically & the ride itself (suspension). But, I find myself wanting to ride the TW 70-80% of the time - mainly to the lower & lighter riding it provides. Now if only on pavement, it's the DR hands down.

    If & when I started adding some goodies to the TW, man.....I can only imagine the more fun it will be to ride!! :super
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  3. NJ-Brett

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    I had a DR650 and loved it, pumper carb and upgraded suspension, what a fun bike.
    I did not mind the weight till it drilled me into the ground and I get the helicopter ride to the hospital, up to that point is was a non issue.
    I would not think about taking one many places I took the TW, that's for sure!
    On the hard stuff and the street, it was a real hoot!

    The TW can be improved quite a bit from stock, fork kit, better front tire, carb jets, etc.
    It could use a better shock, but even so, it can go quick in the hands of a good rider.
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  4. Randy

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    Yep, have considered a modded DR many times. And may still end up with one yet, IDK It's actually set up from the factory to be lowered enough to seem reasonable for me. But it definitely is no TW in true off-road conditions. With that said, I don[t really do woods trails these days and for the most part just enjoy two track where the DR would likely do just fine for my style. It's definitely not off the table if I were to come across the right deal...

    And yes! I've done a few mods to my TW, like jet kit, DG exhaust, kick starter, rear sprocket change, yada, yada... And I like everything that I've done to it. If building a replacement I wouldn't change a thing. But by far the best two improvements I've made to the bike have been the Race Tech Emulators and the Tusk DSport front tire. Those two totally transformed the bike off-road! :super
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  5. Mike Dirt

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    A few days moto camping . Been getting 95 mpg even all loaded up !
  6. Randy

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    I've been contemplating the choice between the TW or my Himalayan for taking a trip on the SEAT and SM500. Both have their advantages and disadvantages for a trip like that for me. Cargo capacity, comfort, and speed/power of the Himalayan obviously. But the TW has the size and confidence that comes along with that when I don't know what I may encounter on the trip. Seeing your photo above makes me really curious to learn more about your luggage setup. Can you share more details and photos of what you're using and how you have your bike set up to carry gear?
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  7. frog13

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    TW is your choice . The start of your 4th sentence......confidence, tells the tale. Ride on
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  8. Mike Dirt

    Mike Dirt Been here awhile

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    Rear rack and side racks , the saddle bags are 36 liters, the duffel is 15 liters and the tank bag is 8 liters. Total 59 l.,the bags were not full , probably had 8 to 10 119C6CF6-871F-4315-AC6D-568357963239.jpeg 03187AD1-B9F3-4142-863D-62B695D5FDC5.jpeg liters of wiggle room . The side racks really make the saddle bags mount solid. Total weight was right about 36 lbs. for the luggage and gear.
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  9. Randy

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    Damn! I really like those side racks! Somehow those have escaped my attention until just now. And they're not priced bad either. I may have to think about adding those. Thanks for the info and photos. :thumb
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  10. Randy

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    You have a point. While I've taken the Himalayan over the same routes as the TW, on a couple of the really bad areas I'll admit that the TW was a bit less stressful. And there have been a few things I've done on the TW that I wouldn't have tried on the bigger bike.

    And after seeing Mike Dirt's post and checking into those racks, it definitely makes it a more practical consideration... Not too sure that my current soft panniers (Nelson Rigg Sierra Dry Saddlebags) would work on the TW. I think they'd be a little large for those racks with they way they sit so far forward. But Manracks mentions the DrySpec D20's as working well. And I was thinking seriously about getting the D20's to go with my D68 set that I already have. But they were out of stock everywhere, and an inmate graciously offered me his Sierras for FREE! So... I like the Sierras for the Himalayan. But... This would give me an excuse to pick up a set of the D20's when they come back in stock... And mixing and matching those with one or even both of the D68 bags would offer a lot of practicality for different bikes and setups....

    Hmmmm.... :hmmmmm
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  11. Randy

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    I already have a rear rack that I sorta like for my needs. Looking at the photos on their website, it appears that the side rack mount independently of the rear rack. Is that correct? Unless there's something about their mounting system I can't see, it appears they'd work just fine with my current rear rack. But, I can't really see how they attach at the rear...

    They sorta make the TW look a little Rokon-ish... :D
  12. Mike Dirt

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    ^^ Randy , yeah the side rack doesn’t interfere with the rear rack . I think they add a bit of strength to the sub frame via some triangle .
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  13. Randy

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    Well, glad I saw this last night. Last night I had the tank and seat off, wiring a relay and circuit to run my GPS charger. I never noticed until I went back out to look at my bike to see if I could tell how the Manracks side racks where mounted... While looking at the area closely I discovered that my top exhaust spring was missing (DG exhaust). I found it caught in between the pipe and the rearmost heat shield. It was just loosely caught in there and I was able to easily fish it out, so I'm guessing it hadn't been there long or it would have fallen out over all the rough stuff I did last weekend. One of the hooked ends had broken. Since the muffler mounts to the frame, and the mid-pipe does as well, the exhaust feels tight so I'm not sure how important the springs are, but I ordered some spares anyway. Probably would have never noticed if not specifically looking at this area closely.

    Hard to tell from the photos on their website but I'm not sure the side racks will fit on my setup. It appears that the muffler of the DG exhaust rides a little higher than does the stock unit, so I'm not certain there's clearance for the rear mount on the right side rack.

    Is there anyway anyone with the Manracks side racks could maybe take a photo of this area with a ruler or tape measure in this area so maybe I can get a better idea of the scale of things and better judge how much clearance is needed between the muffler and the subframe?
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  14. Cyclepath

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    Jag. I put a small set of LED turn signals on the back of my TW because I did not like how far out the original ones stuck. I did nothing to the stock ones up front I had to buy one of those LED flasher units from Napa. My turn signals work properly both front and rear. Standard turn signals up front and LEDs in the back. I have had no problems with this setup.?????
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  15. Randy

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    Your experience is exactly what I expected as that's been my experience in the past as well, and it seems the same with most everyone else. While I hate wiring, it's far from a foreign thing to me. For whatever reason, I've tried two different solid state flasher units that were supposed to work with LED's. And still no joy. I have no idea why. I can only assume that I somehow either bought something incompatible or ended up with two defective units back to back... :dunno Most part stores do not accept returns on electrical components, so I'm reluctant to keep dumping money trying new flasher units. Still not happy with the flash rate using the stock flasher unit, but at least they work better than they were with either of the other two.
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    Cyclepath Lost wanderer

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    Geeez, you guys are a bunch of Young guns still wet behind the ears. Hahaha I will be 75 years young this August and I am still going strong. Like NJ I have access to hundreds of miles of back roads and dirt roads a couple miles from my driveway. and I am in the process of selling this place and moving to southern Oregon where there will be more outback riding opportunities. I also have a goldwing with a sidecar on it and nine other motorcycles. In the summer the goldwing usually gets between 10 and 15000 miles put on it for summer trips but this year it will be less because of this ridiculous covid-19 crap. I started riding when I was 15 and I'm not going to quit until I'm dead. And that's going to be many years down the road...... I hope
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    I started riding when I was 11. Just turned 56 and like you, plan to continue riding until dead, or for whatever reason can't physically mount and ride a bike.

    You sir, are an inspiration! :super


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  18. Cyclepath

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    Thanks Randy.
    like others in here I don't really like to ride the t w for endless miles on the road. Two years ago I set up a 187 mile loop ride in death valley and about half of that was pavement. I did this in one day but there was a lot of exploring to do in the backcountry. I now wish I had taken a tent with me and spend a night or two exploring more of what there is there, like old gold mines and abandon houses and shacks and old vehicles used during the mining days. I don't really care how many miles per day I ride it's the things I can see and do along the way that count. It doesn't matter if I ride 20 miles in a day and take all the extra time hiking and exploring the area. I am going to have to redo that 187 mile loop maybe the next time I get to death valley in the spring. If I have my lady friend with me she can drop me off at the start of the good stuff and pick me up at the end with my 4 by 4 pickup. That way I would have a lot more time to poke around the backcountry.
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    That sounds ideal.
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    I have not had a problem mixing led and standard bulb turn signals, you can eve add LED's to the stock signals for more visibility.
    If you have enough current draw you don't need an LED flasher either.
    But running front or rear standard and the other end LED, it will probably always need an LED flasher.
    The LED's draw so little current that the flasher thinks a bulb is dead so it flashes twice as fast.

    I ran into the problem of trying to use LED's that were sequential, flashing from the inside to the outside in order, with non-sequential LED's.
    The sequential lights didn't work, something in the built in circuits was not compatible.
    Once I installed a set of sequential signals, even though a different brand, all four signals worked as the should. :thumb

    Of course, not everyone knows that LED's are polarity dependent, that they will not work if the wires are reversed.
    Non of the lights I bought mention that on the box and there were no instructions of course.
    I had read of the polarity issue years ago when installing lights on my car and I wondered then how many people haven't read about that and think the lights are defective.

    I did see some LED's recently that say they are not polarity dependent and can be wired either way.
    Interesting, I wonder how they do that? :hmmmmm