? Why did you quote these without making a comment about them? -------------- Anyway, something that people just aren't getting here... GM's only care if the salesman got you in the door, and if the salesman made the sale. Period. Complaining to a GM after you were stupid enough to ride off with a bike, instead of giving the sale to a salesman you deemed worthy, exacerbates every problem you think you're solving by buying and only then complaining about the salesman. People wonder why they get the salesmen they get - it's because they are getting the salesmen decades of buyers just like you have cultured.