Third wheel now required

Discussion in 'Australia' started by Spanky McKanky, Oct 13, 2020.

  1. prestonpaul

    prestonpaul What?

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    You’re looking at it the wrong way I think.
    I agree they aren’t cheap but they are essentially a hand built motorcycle.
    They don’t have the big assembly lines, automation and high volumes that the big euro and Japanese manufacturers do.
    Could you imagine the cost of getting a new sidecar fitted to your new F750 or R nine T? You’d probably end up paying more for the outfit than you would a new Ural and would probably have voided the warranty.
    When you look at it that way then perhaps the price is not so unreasonable.
    And after all, if people want them badly enough they will find the money and pay the price regardless.
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  2. Hoots

    Hoots Long timer

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    Wouldn't be too deterred by the price - the build quality ect is very good now - a lot going on with a bike and side car

    Many of the premium bikes are in that bracket now

    I've always liked the Urals

    [​IMG]
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  3. GTinAus

    GTinAus nutsplitter

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    Price wise, an item is only worth what people are willing to pay, and all the Urals imported so far have been sold, which I guess says it all.

    As for power and reliability, as someone who did most of the warranty work on the earlier Urals, I am glad I have retired, they are quite reliable now ( I still have to play with a few (very few), but it is a hand built bike, so Friday bikes still occasionally happen).

    And before anybody asks, no, there will be no 2WD conversion kit offered.
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  4. Beet

    Beet adventurer

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    Maybe if you used Ural's in WA, you would not find yourself in such a situation like photo.

    All in good humour. Regards
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  5. TenereMark

    TenereMark Where are we????????

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    No offence taken, Beet.
    My quote was directed at:-
    1. If you look at the European Ural videos they show them riding up creeks, through mud holes and over boulders. Amazing machines.
    2. If you look at Australian car ads they are driving way too fast and are sped up, driving up boulder strewn hills and turning of bitumen onto dirt without slowing down, because"4wd".(No wonder kids getting their licence get it wrong). This ad reminded me of that.
    They should take one in the sand and show everybody its capabilities.
    And you are right, WA outfits are nearly all Suzuki 1400's, because they are a good bike for it. My poor old Blackbird outfit has to work hard in the conditions.
    I haven't ridden a Ural, but would like to try one. Especially the new ones as I have heard they are greatly improved. But as you mentioned, there are none over here.
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  6. Hoots

    Hoots Long timer

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    Interesting development

    Wonder what the Aus price for the 2WD variant will look like (EDIT: starting circa $27K)

    My understanding is that 2WD is only engaged to get out of trouble? - ie you don't drive in 2WD

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  7. darren70

    darren70 Loud pipes matter

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    I actually thought it was a piss take until it got to the end, a bit weird.
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  8. billyt53

    billyt53 Phast Phossil

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  9. Dave Ward

    Dave Ward I don't even know where the box is.

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    Wrong side of the Tasman...
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  10. Hoots

    Hoots Long timer

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    Looks like most of it was shot around the importer's place near Uralla - seems to be tablelands country - maybe someone put it together later with a few other snippets and over-dubbed the smoker's voice - and with no idea of what would be apealling to buyers

    What's the view on the value of 2WD on one of these?

    Can you use it for more than a couple of metres? i.e. is it just to get you unbogged?

    In which case, could you just carry a winch instead?
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  11. GTinAus

    GTinAus nutsplitter

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    The sidecar wheel is a selectable solid drive from the rear wheel, so OK on gravel, not so good on tar, think locked diff.

    Jon sold the business to Ural America a couple of years ago, but it is still based in Uralla.

    Jon did the riding for the video, all I know, is it was excellent in sand, and climbed a steep hill, that a 2WD ute and a standard Ural could not climb.

    Horses for courses, if you like it, well and good, if not, fair enough.
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  12. tripodtiger

    tripodtiger Off riding around on bitumen circles.

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    Maybe a Ural 2wd thread, let the OP get back to his Spyder?
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  13. Hoots

    Hoots Long timer

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    A lot will see it as a good thing

    Positive development for Australian users, who really do take these things offroad

    Price is the only issue, but it is what it is
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  14. turkey380

    turkey380 turkey380

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    I made a leaner sidecar on a 1983 BMW. You can lock the sidecar to the bike with a solid bar for dirt IMG_1002 (1) - Copy.JPG
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  15. KTM_Paul

    KTM_Paul Sans KTM

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  16. gateman

    gateman Long timer

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    Its about time the Ural got the extra drive wheel so its good to see.

    Ill take the Spider as first option
    then the Ural 2wd ...then if im really fucked and I know I will get old Ill get someone drive a trike for me and Ill take a pill.
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  17. Hoots

    Hoots Long timer

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    Excellent review - have to love that orange paint

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  18. TenereMark

    TenereMark Where are we????????

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    That's better. Shows what it can do.
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  19. Hoots

    Hoots Long timer

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    Interesting experience today ...

    Day off, and after being curious about Urals for years thought I'd trot off to the dealer and check one out

    So, few hours drive later I get there and take one for a ride - and has to be said, this demo was a 2016 model - didn't check kms, but looked like it had been around a bit

    I love the look of these things, but honestly what an unbelievable POS - seriously, astonishing it's even registerable - 50kph on a dead straight piece of tar, and battling to keep the thing on the road - as in really wrestling with it - just ridiculous

    Don't know if this one had some alignment issue or problem with the forks - no idea what goes wrong with them - but hardly seems possible that anyone would pay money (any money, let alone huge money) for such a complete POS

    Will try and ride another one down the track

    Has anyone else had this experience? - all the reviewers seem to love them - quirky for sure, but great fun - this thing I rode wasn't any fun at all - diabolical
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  20. Richarde1605

    Richarde1605 Long timer

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    Just as a data point, have you ridden an outfit before?
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