Tips to buyers and sellers

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by V4power, Sep 25, 2020.

  1. V4power

    V4power Been here awhile

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    I've bought and sold a few motorcycles in my life. I have been noticing a few things from each side that I want to point out.

    Buyers
    1) Stop lowballing without a legitimate reason. If you want to offer a price lower than the asking, please give a reason why. (upcoming service, worn tires, registration due soon, etc).
    2) Don't flake. (If you aren't going to show up, let the seller know).
    3) Just stop lowballing and flaking.


    Sellers
    1) Please price your vehicle accordingly. KBB and NADA only provides trade in and retail values. I have noticed many that use those prices thinking theirs will be sold. Don't tell me to go look at KBB values when you are the one that didn't see the word RETAIL.
    2) Know that this is COVID-19 era and winter season coming soon. If you want to get rid of your bike, sell it at an enticing price. If you want full asking price, wait!
    3)Lastly, please take pictures in well lit area. If you take half ass pictures, what does it say about how you treat your bike or the sale?

    Thanks for reading and leave any helpful comments.
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  2. Cylinder9

    Cylinder9 n00b

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    Gotta appreciate a location in the description also
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  3. Upsidedowncreature

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    If you're selling, don't try to tart the chain and sprockets up by slathering them in nasty silver paint.

    If you're buying, take a closer look at the chain. It might look OK when you're stood up but on closer inspection it might be slathered in nasty silver paint. (Yes I was the buyer in this case!)
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  4. HuntWhenever

    HuntWhenever Motorcicle Commuter

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    :eekers Pretty lame on the seller's part.
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  5. walkingbear

    walkingbear Lets Play Chicken! Supporter

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    I think the buyers should read the ad. I had a project for sale and it stated "project, bring a trailer, no carbs, roller and plenty of pics"
    I was asked several times, does the engine run!?
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  6. Motorius

    Motorius Road trippin' Supporter

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    If you’re selling anything “large”, be it a moto, car, trailer, whatever, it’s always nice to see...

    1) year
    2) price
    3) location
    4) miles
    5) significant issues if they exist
    6) titled or not (including lien)
    7) plenty of pictures, including flaws
    8) willing to ship or deliver
    9) if you’ll trade, exactly what you’ll trade for...
    10) upgrades done to your item
    11) an honest description

    you’ll save yourself & buyers a lot of time...
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  7. V4power

    V4power Been here awhile

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    That sucks.
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  8. ZoomerP

    ZoomerP Long timer Supporter

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    Good list.
    I'd change #6. Clean title only.

    If a seller can't scrape together the money to pay it off, and/or can't be bothered to get a fresh title, I'm not even going to consider it. No, I'm not going to meet you at your bank to pay them off with you, or visit your Uncle Lou to give him his money, or check in with your ex to give her half of the purchase price. It's entirely possible that those scenarios will work out fine, but I'm not interesting in finding out.

    Too many buyers get sucked into a quagmire over title and lien issues, let alone the criminals that intentionally defraud buyers.
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  9. Upsidedowncreature

    Upsidedowncreature Adventurer

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    Yeah...I think the bike had been looked after by a conscientious owner for many years, and then by a bodger for about two years before I bought it. Oh well, every bike I've ever bought has soon needed a new chain and sprockets, apart from the Kawa GT750 with shaft drive :)
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  10. Motorius

    Motorius Road trippin' Supporter

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    I bought my GS with a BMW lien. Picked it up and paid it off. Seller was perfect. OTOH, BMW totally F’d up getting the new title to me by mistyping my address.

    I would not hold a lien against a seller.
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  11. V4power

    V4power Been here awhile

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    True.. A clean title in the seller's name will be the easiest way to do the sale!
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  12. ZoomerP

    ZoomerP Long timer Supporter

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    Like I said, it can work out fine. Maybe I'm picky, but I've seen too many deals go the other way.

    How about: #6. Full disclosure about the state of the title.
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  13. walkingbear

    walkingbear Lets Play Chicken! Supporter

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    When I sell bikes on BaT, I do more of a pictorial AD. Lots of Pics, videos, and explanations on
    why I repaired it a certain way. If you never have advertised in BaT, be prepared to answer lots of questions
    on your bike. Lots of so-called experts on that site
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  14. daveinva

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    Be realistic about farkling. Most sellers overprice their farkled bikes expecting to get full value for what they purchased and they never do.

    That said-- buyers, be prepared to pay for what you want. I happen to like my used bikes well-farkled-- even if the items aren't always what I'd choose myself, it saves me time and effort hunting for the right-fitting barkbusters or the perfect rearsets if someone's already done that work for me. When done well, that convenience is worth it to the right buyer.

    Lastly, buyers-- rarely be afraid of modest mileage on a motorcycle, but always be afraid of low mileage. Modern bikes last forever, so 10,000-20,000 miles on a motorcycle is just breaking in. Conversely, a five-year-old bike with 2,000 miles may have rotting tires, cruddy oil, and a rusty chain. Could be worth the price, but you then have to factor in the "first service" investment in time and money to get that garage queen up to riding shape-- and thus price the purchase accordingly.
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  15. V4power

    V4power Been here awhile

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    I agree about farkling. Don't expect the next buyer to pay for your farkles.
    Also check with DMV for registration. I have had a seller put on a current year sticker on a motorcycle even though his bike was 5 years overdue with fee. I went to AAA to have it checked and it saved me.
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  16. ZoomerP

    ZoomerP Long timer Supporter

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    I always spray a coat of Motul Chain Paint™ on the chain & sprockets.
    Looks good long enough for the check to clear.
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  17. V4power

    V4power Been here awhile

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    Lastly, the person with the cash has the most negotiating power :)
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  18. daveinva

    daveinva Been here awhile

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    :lol3
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  19. HuntWhenever

    HuntWhenever Motorcicle Commuter

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    :roflBeat me to it!
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  20. ZoomerP

    ZoomerP Long timer Supporter

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    All kidding aside, @daveinva brought up a good point. I have a friend with a low mileage GS that sits in his garage next to a low mileage Porsche, both on cheap battery tenders that do a great job of cooking the batteries. Both rarely move, and would be poor choices for driving without good tow coverage. Sad to see, but I wouldn't want the inevitable maintenance headaches they would cause if awakened from their slumber.
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