Tire Compare E07+ Dakar/ TKC70/ Shinko 705 (with cross section of each) on Super Tenere

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  1. Bigguy136

    Bigguy136 Been here awhile

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    So it was a great summer with a lot of miles and the chance to do back to back comparisons on different tires.
    My bike is a 2014 Super Tenere. The only time I rode the bike was when it was fully loaded. I put each wheel on a digital scale rather than guess or only have combined weight.
    My front was 330 LBS
    My rear was 488 LBS
    I spent 2.5 months on the road this summer. Most of the time I was in the Arctic (far northwest) and carried an extra 5 gallons gas (very much needed) and 3 gallons of water.
    I started with a Mitas E07 Dakar on the front and E07+ Dakar on the rear. I left on June 6th and was in cooler temps. I rode across northern USA, thru Canada, North Canol and up the Dempster to Tuk. I did this same trip in 2017 with the original E07 Dakar and I saw I was wearing the E07+ Dakar much faster. I got to Fairbanks with a worn out E07+ at 6200 miles.
    I put on a Continental TKC70. I then rode to Prudhoe Bay among many other rough dirt roads then returned home riding over 850 miles at 90°+. That tire lasted 7800 miles. I then tried a Shinko 705. That tire saw a lot more tar and 90°+ for half of its miles. It was also abused a lot on many Wyoming forest roads to 105° in Nevada and Utah. I got 7650 miles from it.
    The front Mitas E07 Dakar is the same for all summer with 24,000 miles and still going.
    I just put on a Shinko 804/805 Big Block. I got out last weekend and was really impressed. The bike is so neutral when in a corner. I got some dirt in but not enough to know yet.

    Bike the day I left
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    Mitas E07+ Dakar at 6200 miles
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    Continental TKC70 with 7800 miles
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    Shinko 705 with 6750 miles
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    Cross section of Mitas E07 Dakar (E07 with 14,500 miles) and KTC70. I couldn't get a cross section of the E07+ Dakar because I had it changed in Fairbanks but I also wanted to see how thick the Mitas Dakar tires really were.
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    Cross section of the Shinko 705
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    Front E07 and still going
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    Just mounted Shinko 804/805 Big Block
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  2. gve.mcmlxxiv

    gve.mcmlxxiv 2016 Africa Twin DCT No.272

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    Thanks for posting. I’m jealous of your trip. I need to do that before I get too much older. Let me know if your open for long distance trip planning advice.
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  3. Bigguy136

    Bigguy136 Been here awhile

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    Haha, I'm 51. People tell me I'm too old to be going what I do. Never listen and never give up!!!!

    The ride report I did was mostly around the Artic part of my ride. I still did a few weeks in Colorado, Utah, more Idaho, Montana and Wyoming. I wasn't sure it was worth writing about but those areas can be just as exciting as riding the North Canol.

    If doing these rides will be solo, I feel good planning and having back-up plans for anything you can think of is mandatory.

    I'm always open to talk with anyone who wants trip planning advice. I've got 400,000 miles of riding and 17 years of road racing so it goes without saying that bikes are my life.
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  4. HP2freak

    HP2freak Been here awhile

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    thanks for the comparison of these tires.
    I´m Looking for a Long life tire for my Mongolia trip.
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  5. jimmy da fish

    jimmy da fish Western bound , Hammer down!

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    on my fifth set of 804/805, my favorite tire for a big ATV bike ( Super Tenere / GS1200 )

    Good Tire comparison!
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  6. Bigguy136

    Bigguy136 Been here awhile

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    I wish winter wasn't approaching so quickly as i would like to get a few rides in with my new 804/805. I have maybe 300 miles on it. So far, it feels the best of all tires used this summer.
    I'm glad you are having good luck with 5 sets on a big adv bike.
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  7. DRONE

    DRONE Dog Chauffeur

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    Found this thread using Search and thought "Aha! Just what I want--a comparo between the Mitas Dakar and the 705 FRONTS."

    :hmmmmm


    So, a little disappointed, but still a well done comparo. I hate those guys who post a comparo where they say things like "I like" or "it feels" or "this tire is better when" because all of that is 100% subjective. You just give us the facts -- which bike, how loaded, ambient temps, types of roads, and how long they lasted. Great!

    The only thing you left out was tire sizes, but with like about 3 clicks Google told me that your bike's stock tire sizes are 110/80-19 and 150/70-17 so that gives me a good reference point.

    By the way @Bigguy136, that pic of the Mitas E07 Dakar front with 14,500 miles is totally awesome. Looks like it could have made it to 25,000 miles. Assuming you changed it out because the cupping was getting bad enough to be annoying on pavement?
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  8. Bigguy136

    Bigguy136 Been here awhile

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    Thanks,
    I pulled the front tire at (going with memory) 25,000. I still need to cut it in half and will get mileage looked up. Just a bit cold in the garage at the moment.
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  9. 605Zee

    605Zee Beach bum

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    Have you been able to put more miles on the 805? I'm curious to hear how it compares to the E07.
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  10. Bigguy136

    Bigguy136 Been here awhile

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    So here are a few updates. First, the Mitas E-07 Dakar front. I took it off earlier than I wanted but I took a ride to Central America and didn't want to push it. This thing just wouldn't wear out. I have over 30,000 miles on it (mounted at 36,424 and removed at 67,335). I would have no problem going 50,000 miles on another. In the cut-away, the Mitas is the narrower of the two.
    The other tire is a 805 Big Block. That tire got more short trips and mostly on tar. It could've went more miles but gain I had to change due to ride south and needing fresh tires. Same weigh as that is my normal cargo when travelling. I have a FJR that is my going to work bike so S10 is parked or loaded and on a trip. 805 went 8,000 miles (odometer 59,859 to 67,335)
    If anyone wants another angle of photo, let me know soon and I will provide.
    And no, nobody gives me anything, no sponsorship, nothing. I just rode a lot and cut tires to inspect. I wasn't happy with Mitas discontinuing the E-07 and replacing with their "new and improved E-07+". It sounds like they brought the tire back but not sure I want to support them. But then again, 50,000 miles on a front, maybe I will???
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