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Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by VxZeroKnots, Dec 30, 2011.
KB10JU is blind. Nuff said!
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Dakez, you know you like the way he works the throttle! GIGGITY!!!
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This is funny as shit.
See what 10 years can do........................
What's up with the giant spider?
It's waiting for someone to slide off the track.
no knee out?
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That's Barber, there are a bunch of weird sculptures there.
IMO, many street riders put their knee out because they anticipate a low-side.
They do not trust their abilities, the bike or traction.
Good vid and i've watched many on utube.
In the tight moto vid, they need the bike to turn as sharp as possible. To weigh the inside of the bike would be counter to their cause. To push the bike down would help make it turn quicker to a point but then scrapping to early. So in this instance the rider is pretty neutral axis wise but does try to lower center of gravity to help the cause, by being low. Same physics work on the street.. tight low speed turns weighing to the outside of the turn pushes the bike down and it will turn tighter, like when turning in a parking lot or quick U turn on 2 lane road. (61 " wheelbase bike turning quickly inside 20') Faster speeds (not even fast) need the bike ballasted so it remains as vertical as possible so you weigh it to the inside, with your shoulders, hips, but, head, torso and such. The comment about the knee being used for support I just can't see but I am open to learning more if someone can show me that. I have used it like a feeler to have the bike weighted as much as possible to inside and know that just after knee, bike parts start touching. It also lowers the CoG with the rider low. Even if not doing knee touches, with the bike a little more vertical, besides traction, the bike suspension can work better and if there are some irregularities, small or large, the bike has a better chance of managing them. Body position can also have additional effect on weight of front/rear, as well as side to side as well as steepening rack angle to have slight change in steering.
So all in all, you need all these tools: some for tight maneuvers, some for faster, and some for traction, some for suspension needs, some for safety, some for fun. Good to know them all. Right tool for the right job does help or if you only have a hammer, everything will look like a nail.
Keep on Smiling! Ride Well and Safe.
Crossed up pretty bad, hence why the bike is at max lean angle
And Doohan's riding style was a result of having destroyed one of his lower legs.
Yet he was Moto GP champ five times.
In a totally different era, who knows how he would have done with an 800cc.
I was just pointing out that while our resident expert says he's all crossed up (doing it wrong?) he did win a whole bunch of races doing it all wrong.
Are we suggesting that there is more than way to skin a cat?
This is directed at this thread because...well...it has proven it is worthy.