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Discussion in 'Latin America' started by Tama's Tigre, Mar 31, 2008.
Sometimes the routes aren't obvious
And they do call it Adventure riding, no?
Ok, planning on a trip south mas o menos thru Cd. Valles, Papantla, kiss the gulf, Orizaba, Huatla, Tuxtepec, Oaxaca. Nothing set in stone. Kinda wanna end up in Oaxaca after paying tribute to Huatla.
I wonder who gave you the Tuxtapec - Oaxaca idea
South of the city of Orizaba is a pueblo named Zongalica. It's a great ride to get there and the area around it is full of waterfalls, caves and other natural wonders.
A little to the west of Cd. Valles is Tamasopo with it's fantastic waterfalls. To the south is Aquismón and El Sotano de las Golondrinas - the cave of the swallows where 10's of thousands of swallows dive into at dusk. And just south of there is Xilitla with the Pozos de James park - a magical place in Mexico not to be missed. Dan
You did, my brother. Thank you.
I also looked up Xico, Veracruz and its on the list.
Thanks for the tip. I'll look it up.
Yep you're right about that. Xilitla, Valles, Aquismon, Tamun falls, Micos, love it all. We've pretty much covered that area multiple times. We saw the swallows in the morning. Thanks for the tip on Oaxaca. All right!
Xico has a nice waterfall. The nearby town of Coatepec is nice, has fantastic coffee and there's a great little cafe, the Cafe Andrade, on one side of the parque.
If you've never done the road from Huejutla de Reyes to Pachuca it's recommended and is equal or better than the Espinazo del Diablo. Just before Pachuca is the very pretty town of Mineral del Monte which I much prefer to Pachuca. Near the northern entrance to Pachuca there's a road that climbs to the Parque National Mineral del Chico, crosses 3000 meters elevation then drops into the town of Mineral del Chico. The town is a mining town that was mostly populated by Cornish miners at the beginning of the 20th C. Dan
Oh yes it does.
There are actually two waterfalls to hike to, the other being the "back" waterfall fewer people make the effort to see
Romancing the Stone
Trailblazer: The tourist office in Orizaba is located right in the center of town in a building designed by Gustav Eiffel. It's large and made of bolted-together iron panels. Very interesting bldg. They have a very good, free tourist guidebook that covers the area around Zongolica. And one of the women in the office is a very well-endowed 20-something who likes to show her rack by leaning over the map on her desk.
On one corner of the building there's a cafe with a large selection of coffee drinks, one named Shake Prick. No-one working there knew what it meant in English or why it was named that. Dan
This is the kind of information that is priceless. OK, Zongolica is dialed into my radar. Looks very interesting. What is Fortin de las Flores like? Stay there or Orizaba?
Don't know how I'll be able to work all of this into the same trip, but I'm interested in Atzalan, Tezuitlan & Zaragoza, then somehow Coatepec & Xico, from there backroads to Huatusco then south to Fortin and Zongolica. Looks like one heck of a road from Orizaba to Zongolica. How do I get to Tehuacan?
A little off the subject, but out of curiosity, do you (or anybody) know anything about the field where the battle of 5 de Mayo was fought? Is that near Zaragoza?
Dang. By the looks of this list I'll never make it to Oaxaca.
I really liked Orizaba and spent 3 nights there using it as a base for exploration. When I was there they were fixing up the center with cobblestone streets, pedestrian walkways, etc. So it should be even nicer now. I stayed at the Grand Hotel de France, 01.800.507.4402 on Av Oriente #186. It has secure pkg. A single w/o A/C was P350 and one of the newer rooms with A/C, flat panel TV, etc was P550 which I negotiated down to P500. I checked out the nearby Hotel Pluviosilla, www.pluviosillahotel.com , on Av Poniente 7 #163, 272.725.5300. It too was very nice and a single was P340. I had planned to spend a night or so in Fortin de las Flores but stayed in Orizaba instead.
The batttle of 5 de Mayo was fought on a hill outside Puebla. It's not a holiday much celebrated in Mexico and the fort on the hill where the battle was fought is rundown but does have nice views. On 6 de Mayo the French troops returned and defeated the Mexicans. Dan
El Fuerte or Alamos, for the night?
Alamos is the more colonial-looking place so I would recommend it if you can only go to one. There's a mirador (viewpoint) on a hill at the edge of town that gives good views. You can ride or walk to it. Dan
Just returned from Reynosa and I'm hungry for more - much more.
Currently on a H-D Ultra which I do take off the hard stuff (a la
Trailblazer) but I'm wanting to know if your above roads are all
go-fast pavement or what?
Thanks for your reply,
Agree, Alamos if you are going to choose.
A super nice view from the mirador...
Alamos it is. But hey, we'll see. Things can certainly change once you're on your way. Alamos looks nice.
thanks for the input
If we are seriously considering the best roads in Mexico, and you don't already know about them let me suggest three biggies.
Hwy 120 from Xilitla, SLP, thru Jalpan down to Bernal. All 3 towns are great.
Hwy 85 south Tamachunchale to Zimipan, you can connect to 120 here and many locals do the loop.
Hwy 105 south of Huehutla de Reyes, thru Canali (or not) to Molongo and onto Zacualtipan.
Yes these are all paved.
I also think the little gem of a road connecting Linares's 85 to San Roberto's 57 is a diamond in the rough, and from this road you can take the spur that leads thru the hills to Dr Arroyo, on your way to Matehuala. The section between Linares and Galeana is the part not to be missed.
I can't believe that I've been following this thread for two years and never posted.
Of the roughly 8 months I spent riding the Mexican mainland, my favorite routes would have to be:
* The highway from Puerto Escondido to Oaxaca. Twisty, decent pavement, not much traffic. First time I had the bike leaned over far enough to <a href="http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6239083&postcount=75">scrape the cases</a>.
* The dirt road <a href="http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6171747&postcount=28">from Puerto Vallarta to Talpa de Allende</a>:
* The washed-out highway between <a href="http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7326358&postcount=198">Sánchez Magallanes and Paraiso</a> (just north of Villahermosa):
* My favorite road in Mexico, by far, is the stretch of dirt along the northernmost coastline of Yucatán. Between <a href="http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8614923&postcount=400">El Cuyo and San Felipe</a>.
I have a new hero.
Here's my list:
1. The ~140 miles of two-track heaven between Madera and Tomochic, Chih. which I refer to as Sirupa Canyon.
2. The ~60 miles of gnarly backcountry two-track between Huachinera, Son. and Mesa Tres Rios, Son. Hectoglider spent an eventful day in this area, almost perished and then said it was like "Machu Pichu" up there. Good Stuff.
3. The continuation of #2 above, from Mesa Tres Rios, Son. to El Largo, Chih.
4. The fabulous road from Bacadehuachi, Son. to Mesa Tres Rios, Son. via Nacori Chico, Son.
5. Creel to Batopilas...duh.
Less dirty favorites:
6. Hwy 200 between Tecoman, Colima(?) and Playa Azul, Michoacan. Great seaside twisties.
7. HWY 85 Tamazunchale to Zimapan.
8. The road from Altamirano and Ixtapa/Zihua.
9. HWY 16.
10. Puerto Escondido-Oaxaca.
Me encanta Mexico!