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Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Graemsay, Oct 12, 2009.
Any tips for dealing with helmet lift at interstate speeds.
Heading out as soon as some proper luggage arrives.
What kind of helmet? The only time I have ever experienced helmet lift was when I bought my first bike, a cruiser and a half shell helmet. At highway speed that helmet would try to strangle me with the chin strap, progressively pulling harder as speed increased. Didn't take long to decide to wear a full face helmet and have never experienced lift again in 30 years riding pretty much naked bikes, other than a brief daliance with a BMW RT. Same for my wife, she's never mentioned it and if it had happened I would have heard about it. She wears Shoei helmets and I used several Shoei RF1000s but had to switch to Arai when the RF1200s came out.
I do get some lift with my dual sport helmet with the external visor but only at elevated highway speeds and don't do that often when wearing those helmets and as mentioned can make it bearable by tilting down.
it’s a Bell full face, i don’t remember the model name tho.
Thanks for the input
So how big of a screen does a bike stop being naked?
Good question. Here's mine. I still get plenty of bugs on my face shield so I'd say it still qualifies.
I actually did quite a few miles with the face shield up it was so hot. I've never done that much of it. Of course around 50 mph I'd put it down.
I just did a multi-day ride all over AL, MS, TN, AR. It was hot as hell but I had a great time.
I have a Rosd King with a high Police seat and a lower windshield. Rain, bugs & rocks hit me in the face. But I doubt anyone would agree it’s naked. Unless I removed the windshield.
Yeah I probably wouldn't agree either.
I've never ridden a full fairing bike.
Closest I got was my R100 with a big plastic shield (I took it off). It was kinda cool how much air it blocked. It was also ugly as hell.
I took a few trips on my SV before getting my Vstrom.
I consider any shield "not naked", but allow for fly screens, as they are pretty much just screens for your gauge cluster.
Wife's Street Triple w/fly screen: naked
Wife's Bonneville sans shield: naked
same Bonneville w/shield: not naked anymore
The ONLY bike I have ever enjoyed riding with a shield was the R1200RT with it's electric shield, but damn once you raise it you might as well be driving in the car with absolutely no wind or noise, it was so freaking calm behind that shield I could have lit a cigarette with a match, had I smoked. Which would also have been possible with it's cruise control.
Since then have tried shields on a few of my bikes but have always ended up removing them and being much happier.
Meanstreak w/shield: not naked
same bike in naked trim
I put 40,000kms on that MeanStreak, it just felt 100% better without a shield, handled better, quiet, no buffeting.
Ural w/shield: not naked
Ural in naked trim, the dogs made me take off the shield
Why naked is better...
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my BMW K1200LT had a shortened screen. It was electrically adjustable for height and angle. All the way down it just took wind off my chest. Halfway it sent the wind over my helmet but was still below my line of sight. All the way up it was quite, still & dry in a driving rain. I loved that bike. If it was just less portly, had a lower c.g. and didn’t cost so much to service.
I did all my own servicing on the RT so it wasn't the cost, but the time. Not the servicing part, it took longer to remove all the plastics than it did to actually do the service like adjust valves. I envied GS owners whenever it was valve time on the RT.
Definitely NOT naked,
or I guess you could finally call the RT a naked bike...
@bross I ended up behind some MC club guys yesterday in my truck and all the sudden I see smoke. Dude was smoking behind his shield. I don't smoke but that's such an odd concept to me having no wind.
Now I wanna try a bike with a fairing/shield to see what it's like. Even a GS has a screen and some have little winglets to keep the elements off ya
Did an overnighter on my Yamaha Bulldog. 500 miles averaging 60 mph and 52 mpg.
It was a nice 89 degrees out. Great weather for naked touring.
Rob Beach, our tour guide on our Alps trip always had a cig in his mouth...
Don't ride the interstate.
Evil necessities are just that
If you have a windshield on the bike try putting 1” spacers between the mount and the windshield. If you don’t have some way for air to come up behind the shield you’ll get air coming up your legs and up your chest to fill the low pressure area the windshield creates, and this causes helmet lift.
Naked bikes don’t have windshields.