Training Courses

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  1. Redback

    Redback Average aussie bloke

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    Who has done one, the daughter and I have booked into Lyndon Heffenan Adventure Bike Course in August.

    It's half the price of the BMW Motorad coarse which was a selling point, but I mostly did it because I and the Daughter really need to learn a bit more about how to ride these things off road.

    While I'm pretty confident on road sometimes maybe a bit to confident:loco my off road skills are shite and I really need to improve them and get a bit more confident with this big heavy bike.

    I have to say I'm excited and shitting myself all at the same time, a bit like the first race meeting I ever did.

    Anyone done a coarse or maybe even ran one, I need reassuring, yeah I know I'm a sook.
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  2. enookway

    enookway Are we having fun yet?

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    Did an Academy of Off Road with Lyndon about 15 years ago at Ballarat MX track on an XR400.
    First morning I hated the track. By the second afternoon I didnt want to get off.
    Best value farkle you can get.
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  3. Dr AT

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    Did his adventure bike course back in about 06 ( atgreg organised it and miles davies ran it) - great course. They managed to provide content suitable for a VERY diverse group ( everything from people who weren't cmfortable getting up on the pegs through to an ex trials rider who used to teach riding skills! ) .

    Fit decent rubber and enjoy.

    Edit, make that 05. https://atgreg.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Dirt-course-2005
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  4. nevgriff64

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  5. Redback

    Redback Average aussie bloke

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    Thanks fellas makes me a bit more confident, as for decent rubber what I have (road bias tyre)will have to do for this, just can't afford it, just gotta pray it's not damp for the weekend.
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  6. Dr AT

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    I notice from the other thread you're considering fitting road biased rubber - do yourselves a favour and fit something more dirt biased for the course ( you can always swap back afterwards)

    Consider it part of the cost of the course - dirt oriented rubber will give you the confidence / safety margin to learn techniques you wouldn't even consider possible. Once you've learnt them on dirt rubber it's relatively easy to extrapolate those skills back to adv rubber, but trying to learn controlled sliding / braking on a wet grassy paddock with slucks is going to get expensive ( look at the pics from my last post)
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  7. Redback

    Redback Average aussie bloke

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    Yes looked at the pics and I am going to a more off road tyre I just don't think I can afford new tyres right now, I might be able to stretch a new front I'll see what I can do.

    I was always going to off road rubber for the 1200GS, just not right away, I was hoping to wear the rubber I have out first.
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  8. BergDonk

    BergDonk Old Enough to Know Better

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    As someone who has taught these courses, I'd suggest, if at all possible, use a smaller lighter bike. Skills development is always easier on smaller lighter bikes. Once confidence in how it works happens, its then easy to translate to a bigger heavier bike later as you progress. Big heavy bikes can be intimidating, smaller lighter bikes are easier to ride and usually less costly if it goes wrong. Why do elite riders practice on a trials bike?
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  9. nevgriff64

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    I can understand the thinking behind this - but the first time you drop your bike because the incorrect tyres are fitted will be more than 10 times the cost of the new rubber.

    Tyres are cheap compared to Medical Bills as well. :-)
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  10. Redback

    Redback Average aussie bloke

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    I have always done this, but I don't have anything else to use.

    I'm looking into the finances to see if I can stretch the budget.
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  11. enookway

    enookway Are we having fun yet?

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    Have a look around the bike wreckers.
    Second hand knobs are way gripper than new road biased patterns
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  12. a2zworks

    a2zworks Así es la vida

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    I would like to do one of those, I'm from a similar background as you.
    Please get back here with feedback when you are done, and you'll be fine.

    Surely someone here might have a half worn tyre kicking around in the shed that might be willing to offer you.
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  13. Redback

    Redback Average aussie bloke

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    I should say I have raced off road but that was many many moons ago, let me be clear I was only a club level dirt rider and really only started riding dirt bikes again because I gave up road racing and wanted to have some fun.

    I just want to be as good as I can be and help my daughter do the same, if that makes sense.

    Oh yeah and I will report back about the coarse.

    Baz.
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  14. Dave Ward

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    Sounds like this training is rough. I prefer training to be fine...
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  15. BygDaddee

    BygDaddee Where do I get a pie

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    I was thinking 3 categories really

    Fine
    Medium
    Ruff
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  16. AUSSIEADV

    AUSSIEADV Long timer

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    You’ll need Offroad rubber.

    Try some cheaper brands ie Heidenau or Mitas for starters.
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  17. bigborett

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    Have you bought a Mitas E09 recently Al? Cheap is not what you could call any of the big bike dirt rubber.

    If he was in Melbourne I could give him something better than road rubber. Glad to get rid of them.
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  18. bigborett

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    Have to agree with the boys though, try for some dirties.
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  19. Bounty1

    Bounty1 Been here awhile

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    @anydavenow and I undertook a Chris Birch "Say no to Slow" ADV riding day in Nov 2016, and this significantly improved my riding across all types of terrain. Well worth it!
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  20. Redback

    Redback Average aussie bloke

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    I'm a medium myself:hmmmmm

    Anyway spoke to the girl, she agrees we should get some off road tyres for the COURSE:fitz
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