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Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Hamamelis, Aug 25, 2020.
SV650 did it too.
initially I saw it was 8990, and thought oh, it is 9K US.
Until I saw I was on .ca, so it is 9K CANADIAN!....
I am sure the triple will be nice...now I am just waiting for the review of the ergo & the actual butt dyno from them testers.
Pricing across borders is incredibly complex. It's not uncommon for motorcycles to appear more expensive in UK and EU if you just do a straight currency conversion.
I developed an economic theory a few years ago after observing that a standard beer seemed to cost about five moneys in different countries. In the USA I paid $5 for a pint of good beer at the local brewery. In the UK I got an Imperial pint for £5, and in Germany I got a half liter for €5. Even accounting for the slight size differences, I determined that beer is cheaper in the USA than in UK or Germany. At today's exchange rates, a liter of beer in US dollars costs:
USA = $10.57
UK = $11.40
Germany = $11.65
Some people might argue that the German beer is worth it, but that's another discussion. But anyways, this is my own crackpot way of saying I think things are priced around arbitrary perceptions of what buyers think something should cost. That's sort of what I see in those UK vs. US prices for the Triumph.
I suppose someone who actually understands economics can provide a better explanation.
It's almost as if Triumph's engineers actually own motorcycles or something.
The UK list price is also OTR, or On The Road (See Triumph UK website). One of our UK friends can elaborate but that accounts for VAT, freight, fees, etc.
Here, you add on all the fees and taxes afterward. So it's MSRP+. Kinda like looking at a beer menu and having to add tax and tip on yourself because the menu price is just the start.
I figured someone smarter would come up with a better and shorter answer than mine, and I was right.
It's on the US Triumph site, "starting at $7,995".
A lot of talk, not enough pictures...
That makes up for the idiotic airbox design on the 1st gen models, one of which was a Trident. :)
Wow, I think they nailed the styling. Looks great.
A lot better than the new MT09 imo.
but first thing would have to go is that cat underneath...it is a beluga whale belly...
After looking at it some more, I'm not thrilled with the way the tail looks. I absolutely despise those stupid weasel scraper rear tire "fenders" too -- they don't work, and they make R/Ring the rear tire way more of a pain in the ass than it looks like. The whole bike looks a little stubby because the tail is too short and doesn't carry enough visual mass. Forward of the seat it all looks really nice, but the rear subframe (or lack thereof) annoys me.
LOL, yes I forgot about that. They owed some penance for that one, definitely.
I'm a fan! If I were in the market for a 650 bike I'd be very tempted to go Triumph over SV650. Especially for a triple
Curious that you compared it to the MT-09. Maybe it's because it just came out, but I don't think they really compete for the same customer. Although, interestingly, I did too as both have the same potentially limiting, for people who like to go for more than a couple of hour Sunday ride, 3.7 gal tank...
You would think (and hope) this Trident gets better fuel economy than the old Street Triples the engine is based on. But for this bike to have a useful range, it needs to be as efficient with fuel as an MT-07 is.
Why shouldn't it be? An 80 hp 650-ish triple is a pretty low state of tune. I'd expect 50+mpg.
The 765 ST gets 50mpg easy when ridden close to the speed limit. This bike will do 50+ I'm quite sure. Still, the current trend of sub 4 gallon tanks is silly.
I really like the direction Triumph is going with this bike and their new Scrambler 1200.
This Trident looks like a proper motorcycle that focuses on two wheels, an engine, a gas tank and handlebars with classic minimalist styling, which I really appreciate. It's not a retro classic but looks like an appropriate representation of the evolution of classic styling. I'm not a huge fan of the angular, futuristic looks many of the manufacturers are putting out and I say this as a guy who rides a KTM 990 SMT, which is an awesome bike, but not exactly and exercise in classic styling.
I'm a Ducati fanboi and I wish Ducati were going more in this direction as well, although they are to some degree with the scrambler and somewhat with the monster. However, this new Triumph Trident has the style I wish the newer Ducati Monsters had.
Agree 100%. I love Ducati, and the Monster should be perfect for me on paper, but I just don't like the look of the things.
Saw a graphic a while back showing 3 potential models using this engine. Come on medium displacement sport tourer!
Was this ever advertised as 'retro', or did the idea just take hold because it has a round headlight?
I dunno, it looks nice. It's a roadster.