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Ultra rugged Kyocera phones,GPS smartphones ..my guide

Discussion in 'GPS 101 - Which GPS For Me' started by PDX Alamo, Feb 19, 2017.

  1. Got_Carbs?

    Got_Carbs? Been here awhile

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    I'm already familiar with the rooting situation of this phone. You'll see 1 or 2 reports of root via shady apps, nothing substantiated.
  2. Jamie Z

    Jamie Z I'm serious. Supporter

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    Right here:

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    From this screen, you can create folders, sub-folders, etc. Save whatever files you want. It’s a little clunkier than using Windows or Mac, but the functionality is there. You can manipulate all your files, rename them, move them to new folders or an external device, send them by email or messenger.

    Jamie
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  3. flamingm0e

    flamingm0e Been here awhile

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    Thanks. That definitely doesn't look like it did when I tried (admittedly only once) to do it. Like I said, I will give it a shot.
  4. Got_Carbs?

    Got_Carbs? Been here awhile

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    It's too bad iOS is so restrictive that SyncThing can't be developed for it. That app is badass. Syncs select folders between my laptop and Android phone when on the same WiFi network. Doesn't use any servers.
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  5. Jamie Z

    Jamie Z I'm serious. Supporter

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    Here’s what it looks like with an external storage device connected:

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  6. Jamie Z

    Jamie Z I'm serious. Supporter

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    Oh yeah, you can even connect a USB hub and connect more than one external device. In my case, my USB SD card reader has two slots:

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  7. Jamie Z

    Jamie Z I'm serious. Supporter

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    Yay! So I wasn't the only one who had this problem?
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  8. Grinnin

    Grinnin Forever N00b Supporter

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    Has anyone noticed that you can see the charging contacts of a Kyocera Duraforce Pro through the hole at the bottom of the RAM "Quick Grip" phone holder (standard size).

    KyoceraViewedThroughRam.JPG

    You can fix that by filling that cavity full of epoxy. I used clear tape to make a flat surface on the phone side and make a hopper on the back. That way I could cast epoxy with the holder standing up.

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    Then use care and a hacksaw to chop it off flush. I also used 4 layers of masking tape on the RAM mount to keep the hacksaw from chewing it up.

    ReadyToDrill.JPG


    THEN you can drill through the clear epoxy to install spring-loaded contact probes (colloquially known as pogo pins). I used what seems to be a "standard" 1.4mm stroke.

    https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Mill-Max/0901-0-15-20-75-14-11-0?qs=/ha2pyFaduj0Lfs89g6pzzuK46L7tscCQJC7HGIIu1/xIUeFULH7bgeN8caWK38v

    Pins.JPG

    Somehow it functions although this piece of plywood may smash around and vibrate less than a dual-sport.

    Charging.JPG


    So here's the ugly underbelly. While not pretty, the wires are protected and the inner layers of the shielded cable are anchored in the epoxy. There are 2 layers of shrink on there with different lengths to serve as strain relief. Pro tip: if you're going to drill holes for cable ties in the side of a cavity that you're going to fill with epoxy, fill the holes or you'll be scooping epoxy off the outside of the cavity for a half-hour. DAMHIK.

    Backside.JPG

    The front side looks better if you're OK with the generally spiky appearance of the Quick Grip.

    Overview.JPG

    This isn't the first in this thread and probably won't be the last. I didn't like the PMA coils I found for wireless charging (ATT) and I understand that pushing current through those coils of small-diameter wire causes a good bit of heat. So here's my solution for charging with the USB port covered.

    https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/ram-mounts-universal-quick-grip-phone-holder-p
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  9. slartidbartfast

    slartidbartfast Life is for good friends and great adventures Supporter

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    Nice job!
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  10. Nostromdumbass

    Nostromdumbass a duck is a fowl. a duc is often afoul of the law

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    outside of the box! Nice!
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  11. flamingm0e

    flamingm0e Been here awhile

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    Nice. I was working on a 3d printed version until I had to replace my dfp.

    Yours seems simpler and less math. Lol
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  12. ThomasD

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    Of course - just to remember the @spokedoc solution :
    https://advrider.com/f/threads/ultr...phones-my-guide.1206076/page-35#post-33410260
    and mine (inspired from spokedoc):
    https://advrider.com/f/threads/ultr...phones-my-guide.1206076/page-57#post-34326982
    Both just a bit cleaner on the backside.
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  13. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    flipping sweet!


    and very well done! thanks for the pictures!
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    Addapost Been here awhile

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    Anyone have problems with the KDFP failing due to internal hardware problems? Is that a common thing? Thanks
  15. Eatmore Mudd

    Eatmore Mudd Mischief on wheels.

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    If yours did then it'd be the first one we ever heard of.
  16. Addapost

    Addapost Been here awhile

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    Nope. Not mine. Someone on a FB group was spewing shit about them. I just wanted to come here to confirm. Thanks.
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  17. slartidbartfast

    slartidbartfast Life is for good friends and great adventures Supporter

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    The reason for this thread is specifically because the Kyocera DuraForce phones are especially rugged and reliable.
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  18. Eatmore Mudd

    Eatmore Mudd Mischief on wheels.

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    Thank you for sharing that info. Every bit is important.
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  19. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    if you replace the battery make sure you replace all the rubber o rings around the screws. I didn't, mine soaked water into its board after i fell on it in a creek. to its credit, I had fallen on it in a creek before and it was fine, but after the battery replacement, not so much.

    fwiw it will withstand about 6-7 drops from 6 feet, screen down, onto a gravel road. it was already water damaged so I figured what the heck.
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  20. Vanilo Petrucci

    Vanilo Petrucci Adventurer

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    Since the Kyocera is not sold in the EU (to my knowledge), anyone have an idea what the best alternative is we can get over here quality wise?
    We have Ulefone, Doogee, Blackview and Cubot on the Amazons, but hard to find any decent adventure riders reviews...
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