Ultra rugged Kyocera phones,GPS smartphones ..my guide

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  1. Eatmore Mudd

    Eatmore Mudd Mischief on wheels.

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    Tripped1, I'm going the same way. If I can't find ready to go push pins I'll make them.
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    Tripped1: look up "PDX Alamo" contribution on it. He best describes....
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    Has anyone tested qi wireless charging? Seems like it would be the answer to many issues.
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    Eatmore Mudd Mischief on wheels.

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    If I understand it Qi is slower than USB or Pogo Pin charging. That slower speed of Qi might be a good trade off for way easier water proofing.
    A thin bead of sealant on the seams of a Qi chargers case should be all it takes to seal it.

    Anyone have any idea what the power requirements are to feed a Qi charger base ?
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    l just have 12v waterproof cigarette lighter receptical, l insert Qi double USB plug into that: All that is not water proof but l don't need to charge 24/7. lf l need and want l will place small double ended bag and electrical tape..
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    2A 5V USB. Some are waterproof
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    Eatmore Mudd Mischief on wheels.

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    V x A = Watts so 10 watts input to feed the Qicharger. Therese's always a conversion loss so lets guess on the safe side and say 15 watts draw by the 12V to 5V step down transformer/adapter. Should be do-able. This is stuff to think about when considering older bikes and bikes without higher output charging systems.
  10. White Raven

    White Raven Been here awhile

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    l was 22% when plugged Kyocera into bike. Rode an hour home. It was charged 100%. l have "connectivity" set under "Charge only." Perhaps if difficulties were persistent using other method charging, comparison would indicate...
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    A few weeks ago I paid $175 USD incl. shipping for my DuraForce XD E6790. 16MB, unlocked, clean IMEI, and SD card. I don't know the story, but it had no obvious signs of use and came in the original packaging with instructions, and the cord and charger were still in their unopened plastic bags.
  12. Eatmore Mudd

    Eatmore Mudd Mischief on wheels.

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    Now these are spring pins I can dig. Beefy, solid and Rated at 9 amps. Something like these should make for bullet proof charging.
    https://www.mill-max.com/assets/pdfs/028.pdf

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    Description:
    Spring-Loaded Pin
    • Durability:
      100,000 to 1,000,000 Cycles
    • Current Rating:
      9A @ 10°C Temperature Rise
    • Contact Resistance:
      20 mΩ Max
    • Operating Temperature Range:
      -55/+125°C (discontinuous)
    • Vibration:
      No Elect. Discontinuity > 1μs @ 0-200 HZ, 10G
    • Shock:
      No Elect. Discontinuity > 1μs @ 50 G
    Shell Plating:
    20: 20 μ" Gold over Nickel

    Shell Material:
    Shell Material = Brass Alloy

    Packaging Options:
    15: Packaged in Bulk

    Inner Spring:
    82: High Force Spring: 120 Grams Force @ Mid Stroke; .090" Max Stroke

    Inner Spring Plating:
    14: 10 μ" Gold over Nickel

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    Just remember for the DF Pro, PMA wireless NOT Qi!
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    Keep in mind that the inefficiencies in wireless charging means more heat. So the phone will run hotter, and may shut down often in the heat. Plus it tends to be bad for the battery.
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    Tripped1 Smoove, Smoove like velvet.

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    Looking at that one.

    I'm basically waffling between a Duraforce with pushpins, a Samsung Neo with a RAM GDS/Intelliskin, or maybe that Experia and proclip....I currently have an Experia Z3 as a loaner (long story), its shit as far as phones go, and it stuck on Kitkat, but it DOES have external charging capability and an SD card and the screen is easily veiwable in the sunlight.

    I need to do a little more research on the pro-clips. I am assuming they are compatable with AMPS type mounts right.

    I picked up a Neo for like $65 the other day.....but I'm trying not to be to spendy with the mounting as I havent settled on a system yet.


    :edit nevermind that one, I went with a Experia Z ultra and proclip time will tell if this works out.
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    Verizon DFPro users manual says it's Qi. Could it be both ? I read that the move to both is on with the newest smartphones. Is Qi in the Pro a Verizon only thing like the sapphire screen is ?
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    The DF Pro's operating temperature range listed as -4° F to 140° F (-20° C to 60° C) so I'm not worried about heat. The alternators of my XT350's might not have the extra watts to spare for wireless charging without cutting into the comfort margins. Spring pins to the contact pads will have do the deed.
    Wireless charging is certainly do-able with newer bikes.
  18. PDX Alamo

    PDX Alamo Been here awhile

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    I charge the phone on the bike or at night when I land someplace but 90% of the time I run the phone off battery all day with no issues and charge it back up from 50% at the end of the day. When I do run micro USB I always use 90 degree angle USB cables which greatley reduces the stress to the port.

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    Tripped1 Smoove, Smoove like velvet.

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    Interesting, what app/connections are you running because I will kill a battery completely in three or four hours with just a navi app and the bluetooth on (airplane mode)
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    Very interesting...
    Mine is Sprint. Automatically purchased Qi pads, 1 home, 1 work, when I got it. No worky. Then I read that its PMA. Returned Qi, purchased PMA...tada...wireless charging.
    I still charge via cable on the bike. Just a 12v power outlet and a car charger. No worries. If its raining that hard, I'll just tuck phone and cable away and put the cover on the outlet. Or use the trusty zip lock bag solution at the charger. May put a charging port in the trunk...or maybe not...lol
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