Use a bicycle Garmin on a Motorcycle anyone?

Discussion in 'GPS 101 - Which GPS For Me' started by stromer04, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. stromer04

    stromer04 Been here awhile

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    So I am into both motorcycling and bicycling, (mountain and road) And I all I have is an older GPS 60CS that works all right but is very limited compared to the newer units.

    I am looking at a unit like this Garmin Edge 605 https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=160&pID=10884
    and wondering how that would work as a motorcycle unit as well as bike. It has a great sunlight readable screen, gives turn by turn, can get an auto power cord for it, it has a card slot for additional maps, waterproof, small,

    I wonder if anyone else is doing it.>??
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  2. 250senuf

    250senuf Long timer

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    A few years ago I had a Garmin LEGEND on my KLR250 using the bicycle mount. The mount held up fine. Did a fair bit of dirt including some bike naps. No jumps or all out MX but some fairly rough double track in the mix.
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  3. DewNmoon

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    I have a Garmin Nuvi 500 that I use on MC car and MTB. On bike with a mount like this

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  4. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS Supporter

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    When you plug in the Automotive Power Adapter you make those units susceptible to water damage. There's a reason for that rubberized flat over the miniUSB port.
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    DewNmoon, who makes that GPS mount for the Nuvi ???? I LIKE it. :ear
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  7. SpeedyR

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    I talked to a guy at Garmin a while ago about a smaller GPS for my KTM 450. I have a 276C which is the bomb but it's big for dual sport use on the KTM.

    he recommended the Edge series as that's what he rode with on his KTM. I do a little mountain biking so it seemed like it would be a great unit for both activities..

    it'll be my next GPS.
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  8. bodhizafa

    bodhizafa How hard can it be?

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    I have a Garmin edge 705 on my F8GS. Works ok, screen is pretty small. Good battery life.

    I got it mainly for mountain biking. I would like to get something with a bigger screen in the future.
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  9. mmcander

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    Which is the best - I bought an Oregon and topo maps and it doesn't work at all.... too focused on hiking (if you have any suggestions - please let me know . So in my research it seems like it is either a Garmin 60 or 76 series.

    I want to be able to plot before I hit the trails on the topo map so I can ride in the national forest without getting lost...thank you for any suggestions

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  10. Emmbeedee

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    If you found the Oregon unsuitable, you're sure to do the same with a 60/76.

    But I'm curious why you felt that way? My Oregon is the best gps I've ever owned. Not perfect, but pretty close to.
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  11. John92

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    You might just want to throw some maps on there besides the topo. In normal situations, I find the street style maps to be fine. I use City Navigator 2011 for setting up because it's the newest map but I have Roads & Rec, Topo 2008, and a couple freebies. I haven't decided whether I need the TOPO 100K or TOPO 24K. I really like the BirdsEye Imagery option. It's worth the cash in my opinion. You could get all the pics you needed in your first year if you wanted to. It's cool to use that with City Nav or Roads & Rec.
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  12. The Crow

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    How's this working out for you? Thinking of going the same route.
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  13. bodhizafa

    bodhizafa How hard can it be?

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    Its ok. Not great. The screen is just too small, it was a pain in the ass to really use it on the Kokopelli, especially in the sun. I already had it (I switch it between my tri bike, road bike and mt bikes, which makes it a good deal for that use) but if I was getting something just for my dual sport I would definitely go another direction. I'm probably going to pick up a GPS with a larger screen just for the motorbike in the near future. Really wish there was a reasonably priced 60csx like GPS with the nuvi 550 screen.
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  14. rschulte

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    I have a Garmin 305 mounted on my KTM. Garmin's bicycle mount works fine mounted to the KTM handlebar. It goes on and off with two zip ties.:evil
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  15. inglysh

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    If you're a cyclist the edge product is the way to go - (depending on location) unless you intend on maintaining a dedicated cycling computer for speed/distance on your bike.
    I have an Oregon that I use (and love) but it doesn't do some things that make a pretty big difference in my book. They may be of little concern depending on your usage.

    1. Speed seems to be relatively accurate on road bike - mtb, not so much. In Wisconsin, accuracy (speed/distance, not location) due to foliage/sky availability was terrible and off by as much as 20% on occasions. In the foothills of Co. accuracy was improved but not much. Koko and Moab area mtb, of course accuracy had improved dramatically due to sky availability. (as cross checked against an edge and cycling computer)

    2. Distance was, is and continues to be horrendous - especially while hiking. My dog and I went on an unplanned hike, I wanted to get in 6 miles so I planned on a 3 mile out and back. Well, I get to three miles and I am friggen exhausted... we turn around. I feel like a complete DB, I can't believe we've only got in 3 miles. 3 miles back is going to be tough. We get back to the car... it is 4:00pm, I left at 10 am. We've been gone 6 hours. 6 miles, 1 an hour? That is my speed with a 40 lb. pack on... wow. I ski'd all winter long, how can I be this out of shape. I upload to google earth/garmin connect and distance has been corrected to 12 miles.

    3. Oh, and it wasn't 400ft of climbing either. After importing the data Garmin connect corrected it to 1980ft.

    Outside of those niggles I can't complain too much because...

    1. It can do cadence and heartrate.
    2. I can use it in my car, on my motorcycle and any one of my 5 bikes, or while hiking, snowshoeing, backpacking, etc. while taking part in these activities I've always known where I was.
    a. I went up to the Porcupine Mountains to do some backpacking. Before I left I downloaded a .PDF of the park map, imported it into google earth, overlayed it on the park, rotated, adjusted, etc. and uploaded into the unit. Whammo! I now have all the park features on my GPS. Campsites, bear poles, waterfalls are within 20ft. of where the map led me to believe (this will vary based on the accuracy of source map as well as how much time you're willing to put into it.
    3. On the fly, field replaceable batteries for extra-vehicular activities.
    4. While I wasn't stoked on buying the map pack so I could get turn by turn - it has increased the value of the product significantly.
    5. "element resistant"
    6. I had another Garmin unit that sucked - in northern Wisconsin it was telling me frequently that I was going west when I was in fact going east. It told me I went in a circle when I traveled in a straight line. I have never had problems like that w/ the Oregon, in fact I was pretty far up north in backwoods Wisconsin hunting on a very overcast day in some thick thick pine and accuracy, that I noticed, was no worse than 18ft during the day.
    7. Non-garmin branded Topo maps are available for free download online.

    Edge products can use a wheel sensor for speed/distance correction, but to my knowledge don't have field replaceable batteries (which was a deal breaker for me) which will be huge for some and report on more relevant data when it comes to activities.

    My unit (oregon 450) would be AMAZING if it had the ability to use a wheel sensor, could monitor temperature/change in temp, had increased accuracy over distance, increased HR reporting and was bluetooth and ANT+ (for speed and watts) compatible. If it had that, I would not be left wanting.

    Note that the Oregon isn't friendly to Cadence/HRM information and downloads have to be identified via the "upload a file" option or data will be stripped from file and be unavailable.
    When it comes to HR data, Oregon in-unit will only display current heart rate. Additional info? a computer is required. This means that if you do zone training, want to see any kind of calorie usage, see max HR, etc. you have to view post-event. Easy enough for Garmin to program - but then you wouldn't "need" to buy two.
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  16. heepey

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    I have a GPSmap60csx that I have on Garmin's bicycle handlebar mount. It works well as a speedo and for navigating as well as it does in the car. The mount allows the GPS to easily move from one bike to the other. The controls are not very easy to use with gloves on. I wrap the wrist strap around something solid as insurance.
    This is a multi use unit that I use for navigation, geocaching, data collection, as a speedometer when the dash goes out in the car, and carry it on both the street bike and the KLX650.
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    So far I have been using an old Edge (I think 305) on my motorcycle.
    The navigation on it is coordinate based with distance and direction only. However I can up load way points into it and get to a location, as long as I don't care about routeing. And it can store your tracks to upload to the computer. Its been kinda fun using it to go after tags and geo caches.

    Not a replacement for maps or mapping GPSes but it is a tool.

    The newer models look very nice and I'm sure they would be useful.

    Craig
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  19. go::ahead

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    Does anyone have more experience to add to this thread? Doesn't seem to be many people going this route, I think it may be best for me though. Would like to hear more experienced opinions!

    I just moved to Santa Fe and my maps collection has quickly doubled in size, not to mention most signage disappears around here. For years I've gotten by with google maps on my smartphone but data coverage is pretty much limited to urban areas in this state. At first I was looking at the Garmin Montana but really I would be using the unit much more on the mountain and cyclocross bikes than the KLR or truck, now I'm leaning towards the Edge series with turn by turn. For around $500 I'm only getting one GPS, has anyone gotten by with an Edge for similar usage? Gracias amigos!

    Just for fun here is a pic of my ride down to the Rio Grand last night...

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