Valentine One

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by Gerg, Jul 20, 2002.

  1. Gerg

    Gerg The Destroyer

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    Ok, After riding under the protection of Feesh's Valentine One I WANT one! Where's the best price?

    Greg
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  2. PhilSpace

    PhilSpace The Ex-Gov

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    There is no best price, no reseller, just V1 - now that you know it rocks, just call them and give them your credit card number and be happy.

    The only cheap way out is to buy a used one, which is hard to do since they offer upgrades to the owners. I have had mine for a couple years and just had it upgraded this past fall to a thinner more sensitive box.
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  3. xrmattaz

    xrmattaz Retiremented

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    I'm gonna order me one, soon.

    FIsh, or others, can you show pics (again) re: how you
    mounted the V1 on your bike? Anyone using any kinda
    remote displays, or just buy the V1 proper and mount
    somewheres? (best mounts?) Hardwire, or plug in to lighter adapter?

    How well does she work in the twisties?


    TIA.
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  4. Gerg

    Gerg The Destroyer

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    Matt, I've only seen two types of installs so far. Ram mount and RCU shelf. The Shelf has been on the RTs and Ram on the GSes.

    For you I'd expect the RAM to be the solution (me too). You can then put the socket on the different bikes and just move the upper part from bike to bike.

    $400 is going to move this down the list a bit :mad: but I'll have one before next year :thumb

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  5. R-dubb

    R-dubb Dubbious Adventurer

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    I've seen some very nice remote installations under the beak on a GS. Santa has his that way, I'm pretty sure. Radio Shack project box with a plex window. That's the way I'll go. For now I use a Bel battery model on my tank with an ear buzzer. Works OK, not great.

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  6. PhilSpace

    PhilSpace The Ex-Gov

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    You can also put them in your tank bag and they will work like a champ (short of laser). The key is the remote audio interface to get the audio into your helmet or the remote display so you can see what's going on. Check out MRN - lots of pix on V1 installations using tank bags, top cases etc.
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  7. CodeMonkee

    CodeMonkee Geek Adventurer

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    I know everyone says the V1 is the best, and that may be true, but is it really 4-10 times better than those that are 4-10 times less in cost?

    I have seen name brand RADAR detectors in stores on sale for between $50-$100, and being unemployed $400 just seems like a lot to be paying for a RADAR detector. I have had all of two (maybe three - I don't remember) speeding tickets on my bikes in the last 8 years - I rarely get caught speeding on my bike even though I speed a lot more often on it, and I go a lot faster on my bike.

    I think it is a lot harder to pickup a bike on RADAR or LASER, especially when riding amongst traffic, and bikes slow down a lot faster so it may be harder to get a locked speed. I know that most of the cops I see are on I-5 and in heavy traffic areas. There have been several times I was sure they caught me, but they let me go, then I realize I am surrounded by cars that would may it almost impossible to pick me out with RADAR.

    FWIW,
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  8. PhilSpace

    PhilSpace The Ex-Gov

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    Trust me, radar can pick up a bike, as I found out on Saturday without my V1.

    The important question isn't the 4-10 times the cost of the unit, but the cost of the ticket and the affect of the points on your insurance for the following three years - pales in comparison.
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  9. xrmattaz

    xrmattaz Retiremented

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    I don't worry much at all on the open highways, as I don't
    exceed the speed limit (much).

    But on our favorite twisty road up here on the mountain,
    which I most often do solo, the DPS patrols often, as alot
    of squids ride that road, die, etc.
    The posted speed limit is 30MPH, for 30 miles of tasty
    twisties. I go faster on my bicycle on that road (really!).

    DPS will ticket me for 5 over, that sucks, as although I
    am a careful rider, and by no means "ricky racer" image,
    I do tend to enjoy that road at maybe 45-50MPH.
    And you don't see the DPS car until it is too late. Bummer.

    I think the V1 may help. (?)
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  10. AJ2

    AJ2 Master of the Universe

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    I agree. 4-10X is also roughly equal to one ticket, so if you avoid one extra ticket with v-1, it's all worthwhile. That said, maybe you should ride a little slower while unemployed? Saves V-1 cost, and the ticket cost?

    Lauren, sounds like you ride fast for a chick.
    (sorry, really. i just couldn't resist.)
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  11. Gerg

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

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  12. CodeMonkee

    CodeMonkee Geek Adventurer

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    I work off my frustration and boredom by riding fast, plus when I get on my bike the last thing I think about is that I should ride slow because I might get a ticket.

    The last speeding ticket I got (I think it was last year) was $80, which is about what I usually wind up paying. The ticket I got in California for passing over the double yellow was $130.

    Yeah right. [​IMG] That does it. The new Alf Avatar goes up right now!
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  13. AJ2

    AJ2 Master of the Universe

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    No insurance charges? Last time I got a ticket in the cage, the ticket plus lack of good driving discount hurt. Insurance hurt more than the ticket. Oh well...

    And, awesome avatar!
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  14. CodeMonkee

    CodeMonkee Geek Adventurer

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    Shhh! Don't tell my insurance company, but I think the only time they check my driving record is when they sign me up! After that, unless I get in an accident, they don't ding me any. Luckily I got the last ticket two weeks after I had started insurance on my GS with Progressive.

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  15. fish

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    I dunno. How about buying one of the cheap ones and telling us how well it works? Lots of folks buy cheaper bikes than BMWs too.
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  16. temoore

    temoore Been here awhile

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    The Escort 8500 has held up well in tests compared to the Valentine 1. Car and driver gave the Valentine the nod, and in most categories it was very close to the performance of the V1. Radartest.com gave the nod to Escort.
    What I like about my Escort is:
    1. $300 including an earphone jack (V1 is about $450 including the remote audio that you need to plug in an earphone jack).
    2. In the city mode you can program the Escort to ignore X band (not used by many agencies, source of many falses). V1 can be programmed to ignore X, but that occurs in all modes. When I am in a state or area where I am not sure about X band, I take it out of city mode.
    3. The programability of the display is great.

    As a note, I own an older V1 and think it is a good unit. I loaned it to my son. I just felt that having two units (V1 and remote audio) was too much considering that the Escort is just about as good a performer with a single unit. IMO.
    As a note, I use the Radar Screamer (motorcycleradar.com) to hear the alerts, and it works great. I had tried headphone speakers (w/ Autocomm) but it wasn't loud enough w/ earplugs. The radar screamer has hi/low, and at hi I immediately hit the brakes as the sound is still loud at speed. I use low volume around town. The screamer is mounted under dash below tach, and is not even noticeable to the casual observer. Just my 2 cents.
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  17. Arch

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    May wanna avoid using radartest.com as a source for related info. Not that the 8500 isn't a quality piece (see opinion below), but there's heavy bias involved over there, as has been mentioned in several print stories.

    Here's Mike Valentine's response to it all.
    And here's a private user's page with related thoughts.
    Lastly, click here to read Car & Driver's in depth test.

    From a personal point of view ... I've been using detectors since Mike Valentine was building the original bulky Escorts and have owned or tried many since then. We currently have four detectors in the family. A Valentine One, Passport 8500, an old 4600 and an even older Solo.

    I don't use the Solo anymore 'cause things change and there are threats that it won't detect, but I'm sure the new version works just as fine as my old one did back when it was current. Hell, I used to carry the Solo in a jacket pocket and it always worked perfectly. I guess that being so out in the open on a motorcycle, the thing didn't really care which way its antenna was aimed. Great little unit. Wins the convenience category hands down.

    The Passport 4600 lived on three different RTs (and more than a few others) and worked flawlessly despite having been subjected to all sorts of scooter abuse.

    Our Passport 8500 hangs in Julie's car and it works as well as all the reviews have stated. Among its plusses are great range, useful adjustability, effective city filtering and an earphone jack. An excellent value as well.

    The Valentine One is in my truck and it's simply fantastic. While some of its features may or may not be of much interest to some, I've grown used to knowing where the signal is according to its directional arrows and now find the info to be indispensable. I would prefer to be able to dim it myself though, and in city use, its alerts are never ending even on the lowest sensitivity setting. I'm picking nits because that's all there is to pick on. It is without a doubt the most sensitive and effective detector I've ever come across and its reputation is well earned. V1 rules the roost.

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  18. wxwax

    wxwax Excited Member

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    That's what my last detector did. If it cries wolf, isn't one likely to ignore it?
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  19. Arch

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    It only does it with X-Band, and since The Man rarely uses that anymore, and the alerts are only in the city where automatic door openers & such are spewing the noise, and where a motorist is least likely to be hauling arse ... Then yes, one is likely to ignore it. For good reason.

    Oh and it can be programmed to ignore X altogether if desired, but given that I was picking nits, I've never bothered. V1 rules the roost.

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  20. Tugrik

    Tugrik Big Blue Adventurer

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    So has anybody tried <a href="http://www.cyclegadgets.com/Products/HARD/default.asp">the H.A.R.D. light</a> setup for their V-1 or other detector? I'm curious how well a visual indicator would do vs. an autocom or screamer setup.

    My only worry has to do with the possible weight of the receiver. Putting anything of mass within a helmet other than one's head is probably not the wisest idea, when it comes to impact safety...

    The page for the HARD doesn't say how much it weighs or what kind of battery life it has, etc etc, so I'm hoping other folks have already given it a try.
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