Vietnam: Along the Chinese Border. Real Time Report

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  1. Tazui1982

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    Hey i was curious how much itd cost you to fix your tires in the US comparing with 86 cents in Nam. Last time i tried to fix a tire in Melbourne back in 2001 costed me 180 australian bux because technician said it was unsafe to patch tires so i had to buy new rear tire. In Nam is usually unheard off to replace tire to be safe, we dont care much about safety i guess.
  2. Critic

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    Tried to check the radar but we couldn't find any real time radar. The hourly weather forecast said that the likelihood of rain was increasing throughout the afternoon, so we sucked it up and headed down the Ma Pi Leng pass, hoping that visibility wouldn't be too terrible.

    Visibility was terrible.

    I was so bummed out. We came so far and so far we were 0 for 2.

    Just before the bottom of the pass we snapped this photo:

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    In the hi angle down shot, it looks like a tour group heading up the pass. But zooming in, it looks more like travelers going both ways. Is that a common site on the open road?
    I have added several likes, but actually enjoy all of your photo's!

    I do not think a shop will plug tires in the USA too much liability. It may even be law.
  3. mb300

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    Zero chance of any shop plugging a moto tire in the US either.
  4. mb300

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    We saw very few other westerners until we hit Ha Giang, then from Ha Giang to Meo Vac we saw many. Of the ones we encountered, most are German. We also met a Spanish couple and a French Canadian couple.

    It probably wasn't an organized tour group, but likely a group of backpackers who decided to rent bikes in Ha Giang to do the 'North Loop'. They tend to travel in groups; Wafer described them as Euro-Bros.

    From our very limited time here, we've seen 4 types of westerners here in the far north:
    - Teachers
    - *Back*packers who happen rent bikes for a few days while they are here
    - *Bike*packers who have been traveling around VN by moto or bicycle.
    - Tourists on vacation (us + the French-Canadian couple)


    Here are the roads that we saw westerners on. As soon as we left this area we haven't seen more than a few per day:

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  5. Yukonrider1

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    Just piling on to say thanks for sharing. Hoping to use your info for a trip of my own some day!
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  6. CROSSBOLT

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    Brilliant photos and comments! About Wafer...I have zero in country experience in Vietnam but have been made to understand how cruel the population can be to mixed children and women who marry Americans. I am heart-warmed to hear that you are being treated well. Does not look or sound like the communists really affect the country folks.
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    Crossbolt.... "Does not look or sound like the communists really affect the country folks." Boy have you got that bass-ackwards. Zero in country experience shows.
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    Absolutely no contest about during the Vietnam war. But his experience going on as we speak is nearly ideal it sounds. That's what I talkin' about.
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    May be the semantics of our exchange. I took yours to mean looks like they're not doing too bad "in spite" of the communists. I'm saying "in spite" of the U.S. occupation & invasion. 1000's there still are suffering from the effects of Agent Orange. I served there in 68-69' ..We were in the wrong! Their resilience is amazing. In many ways they have recovered societally much better than the the U.S....the bane of aggressor nations.

    Sorry for the hijack and diversion...I'll step back now from such comments...just had to get that off my chest.
  10. mb300

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    Day 9, Friday 5-April, Day trip from Cao Bang to Pac Bo

    We took a day trip from Cao Bang to see Ho Chi Minh's cave in Pac Bo. We took the scenic route there. The very scenic route.

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    At this point Wafer was starting to get cranky: "Why can't we do ANYTHING the normal way?!?"

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    Made it thru. Wafer wasn't too happy:

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    Best route ever.

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    Here are some villages and rural scenery that we passed thru on our scenic route:

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    Typical view riding thru typical northern VN village:
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    This cow has a garbage filter on it:

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    That's a baby strapped to the passengers back:

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    Paddle tires:

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    We arrived safely at Pac Bo and saw HCM's cave.

    It was a small cave with some cool stalactites:

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    Much more impressive was the clear stream that it was on:

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    From the cave we headed back the 'normal' way.

    Turns out that the entire town is a heritage site and we weren't supposed to be there on our scooter. We didn't realize this because we came into town over that rocky mountain pass, not on the main road. If we would have arrived the 'normal' way we would have had to park in a lot, pay an entrance fee, then get carted into town on a little electric shuttle.

    Suckers.

    No problem getting out of town, we just drove around the barriers, past the confused guard, and hit the main road.

    One of the towns along the way had incense laid out to dry:

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    We arrived safely back in Cao Bang and had seafood hotpot:

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    I've never eaten these creatures before, they kinda looked like cross between a praying mantis and the giant bug in Men in Black:

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  20. Tazui1982

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    Curious, would you africa twin do well on these bad roads?