VIN check sites

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Baroquenride, Feb 19, 2019.

  1. Baroquenride

    Baroquenride Everyone dies, but not everyone truly lives.

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    Prior title: Looking for someone to run a VIN through their Carfax account
    Anyone with a Carfax account they'd be willing to run a VIN for me?
    *I no longer need a VIN run, but lots of useful info in the thread!
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  2. mitchapalooza

    mitchapalooza Rider is Air-cooled Supporter

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    Cost issue, or tin foil hat issue?
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  3. Boatman

    Boatman Membership has it's privileges ;-) Supporter

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    Pretty sure this against ADV rulz
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  4. Baroquenride

    Baroquenride Everyone dies, but not everyone truly lives.

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    Hmmmm, I just looked at the forum rules and didn't see anything about it. Are you able to point me to a statement in the rules?
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  5. kasuckmo

    kasuckmo Been here awhile

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    Great. Now we got vin police
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  6. Boatman

    Boatman Membership has it's privileges ;-) Supporter

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    There was a thread a while back (couple years maybe) with someone asking the same thing as you. Mods came on saying it was breaking the copyright or intellectual property rules.

    In actually, I really couldn't give a fuck having been a victim of false information from Carfax.
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  7. rdtrvlr

    rdtrvlr Long timer

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    they give you a free one. at least at one time they did
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  8. Baroquenride

    Baroquenride Everyone dies, but not everyone truly lives.

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    Just checked and it doesn't look like they do. Also, I just realized that it's basically pay for each one or 3, etc. I thought they were unlimited for a period of time. Meh, it's not that important to me just another check I can do before purchasing. I know they're not necessarily accurate either, but again it's another check to uncover potential issues.
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  9. rdtrvlr

    rdtrvlr Long timer

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  10. 98stage2

    98stage2 Been here awhile

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  11. Makalu

    Makalu Long timer

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    Carfax presumes a claim was filed for damage if the vehicle was damaged. I bought a BMW with a clear Carfax report only to find out it had been in a wreck much later when I had some work done to it. Probably worth getting one in case they do have a history on the car, but the fact that there is no history means nothing.
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  12. sieg

    sieg Wearing out tires......2 at a time, day after day. Supporter

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    What he said. Unless the insurance company or repair shop reported it, it never happened.
    Carfax and similar are just another tool but not the bible.
    The truck I just traded in shows $6000 rear end damage. Sounds bad. What happened is I pulled forward without latching the 5th wheel. Camper came down on the bed and tailgate. (didn't put a mark on the camper) Insurance wanted to replace both inner and outer bed sides. Myself nor the body shop want to do that much cutting, welding and body work. I took the insurance company settlement. And since the truck was only a year old we had no problem finding a same color new take off bed. No paint or body work. But to read the Carfax I could have been hit in the rear by a semi and damaged the frame it would read the same.
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  13. gmk999

    gmk999 ____ as a Rotax

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    Google the vin.#. I did mine it gave me service records and recalls.
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  14. rdtrvlr

    rdtrvlr Long timer

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    i like it as i usually buy older stuff and i like to see where it’s been registered. carfax told me my 04 accord was registered in puerto rico to the same person from new until 2 mos before i bought it in NY. he was selling because the first time it was ever driven in the snow he felt he needed AWD

    carfax also told me that my 05 tacoma was registered in san diego to orig owner until he gave it to his kid to go to cornell (25 mi from me) in’15. that that winter the guy i bought it from bought it from the cornell kid

    i have a friend that owns a body shop. i wouldn’t trust carfax to tell me if a vehicle was in a wreck
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  15. CA_Strom

    CA_Strom Cunning Linguist Supporter

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    Thank You! While I'm skeptical of CarFax, wife is looking at a 2014 Lexus LS460, so I paid the $5.60 and got a full CarFax. Great deal, and not sure how this guy gets away with it. At least the $5.60 showed me detailed dealer service records every 5k miles for this creampuff of a car with only 28k miles. I think we'll pull the trigger.
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  16. PerazziMx14

    PerazziMx14 Been here awhile

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    Call up your local police department and tell them you are interested in buying a vehicle and need the VIN ran through NCIC to see if its stolen or salvage. They do it free of charge.
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  17. mitchapalooza

    mitchapalooza Rider is Air-cooled Supporter

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    Creampuff is the perfect description!
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  18. kantuckid

    kantuckid Long timer

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    I used to build wrecks as a sideline and never used Carfax before I bought or when selling, per #11 & #12 posts above.
    I'd read it if was sort of in my face.
    Any dealer warranty specialist can research a late model vehicle in their brand for you for free, if caught in the "right mood".
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  19. REALGRAVEROBBER

    REALGRAVEROBBER LEAVING GRAVES EMPTY

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    I had 'my weekend' of self-educating myself about this. Here is what I found.

    Free VIN search to show if a vehicle is currently listed as a "theft" or having had salvage title status:
    https://www.nicb.org/vincheck

    Where has it been registered (which states, when, how many times?):
    www.vinsmart.com cost is $9.95 for a report of the vehicles data from the "National Motor Vehicle Title Information System" (NMVTIS). My guess is that these search engines just access the data set from NMVTIS.

    Is there a current lein on the vehicle?:
    Now go to the official DMV website of the respective state it was last registered in, and somewhere in the DMV web site they will offer to sell you a "last registered owner" search. For where I live in Montana, the cost is $5.02. This will also show if there is a lein, whom the lein holder is.

    Initially, in my googling I searched for the VIN of the vehicle I am interested in buying from a private party into the New York state VIN search. It returned an output report that the vehicle has never been registered in New York state. I then found the NMVTIS search engine offerings (having an up front cost), that show the vehicle's state of registration and date, since new (I found this in the California DMV website, as they offered about 7 or so vendors selling a report from the NMVTIS. One vendor
    CHECKTHATVIN
    only charges $3.50 and I bought that report, and its the same as the nore costly one (makes me think these vendors are drawing data from the same (semi-)gov't NMVTIS organization .

    Then I looked around in the DMV of the state the vehicle was last registered in, and bought a "last registered owner" report, which shows the name of the lender that does have an active lein shown on the state's DMV "last registered owner report".

    California has a complete list of financers so you can find the contact info of the financial lending company, to contact them to find out the pay-off amount owed to release the lein on the vehicle.
    Complete list here: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/about/lob/lob_top

    Contact the lein holder stated, and ask for the payoff amount, potential outcomes (not exhaustive):
    1.) The lein is paid off. We just need to fax you a 'lein release letter' to take to your DMV.
    2.) Some dollar amount, NEGOTIATE WITH THEM ... they may accept $800 today, to pay off a $1,600 delinquient account from 8 years ago where the person didn't pay their debt obligarion.
    3.) Maybe it's a small amount, like $180. You never know until you ask an actual agent of the financial lender. The world is full of many suprizes, the $50-owed lein is just as much of a lein as an $22,000 debt. One never knows until you ask!

    I hope this helps. I've been wanting to buy a vehicle from a private party, which suggested there is a lein on the vehicle. It's been 2 years or so now, and the owner doesn't drive the vehicle. I'd like to buy the thing, and own it outright, so this research finally helped me learn who to ask about the apparent debt owed on the vehicle.
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  20. Baroquenride

    Baroquenride Everyone dies, but not everyone truly lives.

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    That's very helpful and useful! Thank you for posting your findings!
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