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Discussion in 'Japanese polycylindered adventure bikes' started by Queen, Jan 16, 2006.
Cast wheels are fine unless you're an extremely aggressive rider in rocky terrain...
Agreed. Just don't air down much or at all and you'll be fine. If you need more traction, just put an 804 up front, and get that suspension figured out.
I've got 804/805s on mine, and it does great.
I really do NOT like the Honda NC700x for a variety of reasons so it's not even in my Universe.
What skid plate are you using on your VStrom 650?
I don't mind the shopping and installing of parts. I did that extensively on my DR650. It was fun.
You can't be "tapped out" and also "cruising", just sayin'
You can on a 250 with a passenger haha. The bike will handle wide open throttle all day long, and obviously 80 mph isn't that fast so it doesn't feel like it's not cruising. Just riding down the highway comfortably.
I've had a number of 200's, 350's and 400 singles up at freeway speeds for extended periods. To me, it's not "cruising" if your engine is working so hard it sounds and feels like it's angry at you for putting it through that.
How’s the 650 compares to the 1000 when it comes to commuting? I’m leaning towards keeping my dr650 so the dl650 has more overlap with the Dr…. In reality the majority of my riding is commuting to work.
Not sure how many people on this thread own both, to compare and report the difference here; but I've done a lot of commuting on my DL650.
Commuters generally are looking for good fuel economy and lower overall costs of ownership and maintenance. The 650 should provide better mpg, on lower octane (i.e., cheaper) fuel, and be gentler on rear tires. Some will say, "You need the 1000's heavier weight for stability on the freeway," but I've never had any trouble passing, moving through truck traffic, etc. My commute was 20 miles each way. Side note, when I had my EX-500, it actually paid for itself over the years I owned it, versus what it would've cost in gas to drive the pickup to work.
I've ridden about 350,000 km on DL650's and about 275,000 km on DL1000/DL1050. A fair amount of commuting.
To me both were/are perfectly good for commuting.
Commuted rain or shine from the wirral to liverpool uk on a 08 dl650...
Now on a 18 dl1000 in the us....
- yeah both are just fine for commuting....
- wght diff negligable & both easily manouverable at low speeds...
- yeah, gas mileage more dependent on your throttle wrist than anything else....
> still i’d rather be on the dl1000:
- more get up ‘n go get if need be....
- more stable/planted feeling on rougher roads...
Brand new to V-Stroms with one of the oldest: 2002 DL100
Both are great for commuting. If it's primarily freeway riding, I'd take the 1000 if I had the choice. Lower revs at speed and a bit more torque to pass. If across town, the 650 would be my (again, very slight) preference. A little lighter and more nimble with a slightly shorter gearbox.
I would get the base model. You have the DR for off-road riding where the spokes could potentially make a difference. Granted, even if you don't get "a deal" on an XT and you really think you need spokes, the price difference is a lot less than what those wheel would cost to source later on, so there is a good reason to get the XT in that case. But, V-Strom wheels aren't BMW wheels. They don't dent just from looking at a pothole down the road... I've had three different ones, the front on all three has hit stuff (potholes, embedded rocks on dirt roads, etc.) that made me wonder if I had just broken the front end and there was no damage to the wheel, so they are a lot tougher than most people seem to assume (remember, Suzuki didn't offer spoke wheels until relatively recently).
Another reason to get the base model is that the cowl is basically useless and handguards or OEM Suzuki crashguard are OK, but really have better alternatives in the aftermarket. If you buy the base model, you choose the right handguards, bash/skid plate and engine guards for your use.
I've had both (first gen DL1K) and my choice would be the 650 for everything, but especially for commuting. The DL1K was harder on tires, chains, fuel, etc. and will cost more per mile to run, so as a commuter, it's a no brainer.
Let me be the first one to revive this old feud - you should have gotten a blue one. They are much faster...
Congrats on the new bike!
Well it’s not really a long commute so I’m not concerned with cost but more comfort. Never ridden a big bike and I’m worried I wouldn’t feel as nimble as on a 650