We better have a T700 thread, I 'spose

Discussion in 'New Zealand' started by Night Falcon, May 21, 2019.

  1. oldbeer

    oldbeer Grandadventurer

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    My vstrom does 500km on a full tank...weighs about the same....cost 13k. :D
    Youtube is full of videos demonstrating how little of its capability i can or do actually use so i wont be buying any of them just yet. (Never say never!!)

    Should i start a " we better have a 650xt thread I s'pose" thread???:rofl

    Fuel...My drz400 does about 200kms if im lucky on its piddly little tank. As does the drz 250. $15 upgrade from Mitre10 fixed that problem. Well, $20 if you include the two cam straps i use to clag it onto the rack. I carried it full of gas from the Waikato to Otago and didn't have to use it.

    On the subject of weight...if we are talking about serious touring then theres likely going to be around another 100kg added to the bike by the time you head out of your driveway so to my mind these three are the same weight.

    They all look great to me... id have any of them.
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  2. innathyzit

    innathyzit AKA Woodman

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    T700 looks great, looks and spec wise. Has that appeal that the klrs have to me.
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  3. oldbeer

    oldbeer Grandadventurer

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    I wish i hadnt looked at those trademe ads....I think if those had been in the showrooms last chrissy Santa must just have delivered something else. I think at that price its going to put a big dent in normal price vstrom sales.

    Have already rationalised that if i cut down to two bikes from three i could (maybe) afford it.

    I sometimes think bikes are right up there with Class A drugs for addictiveness. I can already imagine myself looking at one at the kerb as i sip my trim flat white. Love the red and white colours but it really needs the signature yammy traintrack decal somewhere on it, imho.

    Nice bike.
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  4. wairau

    wairau get in behind!

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    some idle (ignorant) thoughts...

    to my mind, comparing the pricing it looks to me like there is a glaring compromise somewhere. maybe ktm are knowingly gouging on price while they can but the only true proof of that is if they align to something closer to the yamaha when it reaches the floor.

    for mine it would seem the t7 is heavier than it needs to be. have yamaha cheaped out on the welded steel cradle chassis? will it have shit/budget suspension? (not that ktm have covered themselves in glory with suspension quality recently). or maybe the electronics package for yamaha just isnt there? abs is a given but as for what else it might have? has yamaha amortised more of the r&d over the mt-07 than ktm has over the duke? so that leaves the missing 20-odd hp. yes, its down 100 and some cc but thats their choice. mr falcons spreadsheet didnt include specific hp outputs.

    maybe theres a slight difference in the target markets for the respective design teams, but in a country the size of ours it wont make a pinch of shit difference.

    regardless the merits of either bike, ktm have stolen a march on yamaha.

    i’m not in the market for either but watching to see how this plays out. hopefully @Oscar will put his thoughts to his keyboard in due course
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  5. Night Falcon

    Night Falcon Broke Engine Supporter

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    As I understand it the T7 doesn't have much in the way of electronic rider aids and no TFT screen. Suspension won't be flash I wouldn't imagine but I doubt that'll mean much to most purchasers. As I said above, I think its competition is more 690/701 than 790R. It has about the same hp and price. Next to them it's weight becomes more significant, especially being centered so highly. It is probably being more aligned with the 790 because its not a single and weighs 205kgs.

    I find it difficult to believe it will get close to 350 k's on a 16ltr tank when ridden by your average Kiwi adv rider on NZ roads ...but we'll see.

    The 790 is being made in China from next year so it will be interesting to see what happens to the price and the quality.

    At the end of the day, more bikes to choose from has to be a good thing IMO :D
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  6. young1

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    Any idea when they will be in NZ?
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  7. Night Falcon

    Night Falcon Broke Engine Supporter

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    Trademe ad's say arriving December
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  8. Oscar

    Oscar Master of the Universe! Supporter

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    The nice man from KTM negated that stuff about CFMoto building 790's from next year.
    He said it would be a little difficult as they haven't started building the factory yet.
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  9. Night Falcon

    Night Falcon Broke Engine Supporter

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    and you believed him :fpalm I read it on the internet, so we know who's more likely to be right :wink:
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  10. Oscar

    Oscar Master of the Universe! Supporter

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    But you read what I said on the internet, too.
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  11. MrKiwi

    MrKiwi backwards & upsidedown Super Supporter

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    why would we do that.




    oh wait :lol3
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  12. Night Falcon

    Night Falcon Broke Engine Supporter

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    is this the internet?
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  13. bikemoto

    bikemoto Tyre critic

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    Re: the pricing difference. Yamaha deliberately made the T7 simpler and more rugged than the competition, which helped lower the price. Effectively they built what was necessary for adventure use and didn't over-complicate it.

    I do like the multiple mounting points for the front guard so it can be raised for increased mud clearance. That's clever.
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  14. Night Falcon

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    glitch_oz Long timer

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    ...and hoooo-bloody-ray to that!
    As long as there's 2 wheels and a donk in the middle... t's all it takes to have FUN.
    Can play keyboard and watch TV after the real riding's done....

    Round of applause...
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  16. wairau

    wairau get in behind!

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    from the same junket to spain, al fagan of the 44 teeth youtube channel had this to say

    looks like its shaping up to be a pretty capable, no frills, no bs, value for money fun bike to ride.
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  17. painkilla

    painkilla MeTaL HeD

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    at that price, sure to ruffle a few feathers, Iv seen second hand adventure bikes on trademe 10 years old with close to a 100000kn on the clock going for around 9-10K
    prior to the T7 you could get away for asking that, but not now!, unless you luck out with a clueless buyer.
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  18. Phreaky Phil

    Phreaky Phil Long timer

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    At $16995 they could well become the DR650 of the twin cylinder world. Not the most sofisticated or the best at anything, but reliable, capable of anything you can throw at it and cheap.
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    Whale Rider Been here awhile

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  20. MrKiwi

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    the NZ launch is this Sunday afternoon at the Museum Hotel, Wellington. Three bikes will be there.

    I might just poke my nose in for a bit.

    The NZ distributor rang me and told me to get my butt on down to the launch. :lol3
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