We better have a T700 thread, I 'spose

Discussion in 'New Zealand' started by Night Falcon, May 21, 2019.

  1. innathyzit

    innathyzit AKA Woodman

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    Lol, Kawasaki have stopped making klrs and apparently they were a huge cash cow for them, that's what you get when you have next to zero r&d and retooling costs etc for 30 odd years.
    They have to recoup somewhere, surely.
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  2. EVLED

    EVLED Bike riding nutter!

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  3. innathyzit

    innathyzit AKA Woodman

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    Looks nice. A bit softer alright if top of front guard to bottom of headlight clearance is anything to go by.
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    dazzadm Long timer

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    Looks like someones photoshopping. Fork travel doesn't really match the guard to headlight clearance, but basically could be a good move for the KLX...
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  5. Oscar

    Oscar Acerbic Prick Supporter

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    I rode a T7 on the weekend.
    Not far, but some quick impressions:
    • Definitely built to a price. Nasty plastics.
    • Odd seating position compared to the competition. Old fashioned design. Far too much weight up high.
    • Seat seems to have been designed and built by KTM (i.e. it appears to be a narrow, vinyl covered plank).
    • Great motor. Fantastic mid-range.
    It strikes me as a parts bin special, and Yamaha has got themselves in no mans land with the price.
    For what you get, it is comparatively expensive. Is it 3k better than a Wee Strom?
    The suspension is pretty basic for hard core riders. Maybe they should have priced it up a bit and put better components on it.
    So if you like adv touring, then maybe the Suzuki is better value, if you're hard core, maybe the 690R is the thing.
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  6. innathyzit

    innathyzit AKA Woodman

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    And they will sell fuckloads of them.
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  7. Oscar

    Oscar Acerbic Prick Supporter

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    They sold fuckloads of KLR's but that don't make it any good....
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  8. innathyzit

    innathyzit AKA Woodman

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    Thems fighting words...
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  9. Oscar

    Oscar Acerbic Prick Supporter

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    Er, I didn't' know we had any milk crate people here...
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  10. innathyzit

    innathyzit AKA Woodman

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    Once a milk crater always a milk crater.
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  11. wairau

    wairau get in behind!

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    Howzabout putting a few words together re your new pumpkin?
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  12. Oscar

    Oscar Acerbic Prick Supporter

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    Meh.
    It is what it is....
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  13. wairau

    wairau get in behind!

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    Holy shit. That good eh?
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  14. Oscar

    Oscar Acerbic Prick Supporter

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    Pretty 'kin good.
    I think that once, maybe in my early thirties, for about five minutes, I might have been able to ride it to it's limit.
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  15. Night Falcon

    Night Falcon Structural Failure

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    I get it's a twin so the good folks compare it to a 790, then exclaim how much of a bargin it is and how the Matagoffin mafia are plundering their customers wallets. I've always proclaimed its more comparative to a 690/701 and won't be told otherwise by golly. That doesn't mean I hate Yamahas, Asian bike manufacturers, or the Romans.....although, what've the Romans ever done for adventure riders..........
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  16. bikemoto

    bikemoto Tyre critic

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    Do you ever miss the bigger bike?
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  17. bikemoto

    bikemoto Tyre critic

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    But, it's not a bargain. It doesn't have half the stuff the 790 does. Take all that out of the 790 and they'd be the same price. Which means the Yamaha is priced at Euro rates - not exactly the bargain japper it was intended.

    I suspect that given the hype and apparent demand, Yamaha NZ are milking the market for all they can.
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  18. Night Falcon

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    Got my first look and sit-on a T7 yesterday while visiting Boyds.
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    I liked the Blue one better
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    I'm going to just accept that there is going to be a good market for the T7 however, it just looks and feels cheap. The engine has front and back redundant engine mounts that just look like the motor was designed for a completely different bike and hastily biffed into a cheap steel frame.....ooops that's right, it was :fpalm

    I liked this one bike better from the shop across the road.
    IMG_2342.JPG Horses for courses, ya can't really go wrong with any modern new bike I reckon.....but this one parked outside the shop front caught my eye the most :raabia
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  19. Takataka

    Takataka Been here awhile

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    I think you do basically get what you pay for in this case. For many though the Yamaha will do all they want really well (possibly better than a more aggressive bike) so will be better value.

    When I was shopping for my first adv bike about 5 years ago I was thinking of getting an xt 660. I took my partner into a shop to show it to her and she straight away said it looked cheap and nasty.
    We went and looked at a used 690 (which I was thinking was a bit expensive) and she said "that looks so much better!" so I bought it :)

    Reliability is difficult to compare sometimes. Many would say a DR650 is more reliable than a KTM 690. Ride them both gently and that might be true. Ride them aggressively and it could be the opposite.

    Great that the T7 exists and I think all the reviews I have seen have been really favorable (then again most bike reviews are it seems).
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  20. BygDaddee

    BygDaddee Where do I get a pie

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    the Duke engine, frame and swingarm with longer suspension ?
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