Wha choo know about the Grand Canyon??

Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by Tiny, Oct 6, 2005.

  1. Tiny

    Tiny Wonky Eyed Bastard

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    Any dirt riding to be done around there? Camping off the back of the bike, non-campground kinda stuff? It looks great out there but kinda controlled and locked down.
    Anyone know anything?
    Thanks,
    B
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  2. gentry

    gentry For Reasons Unknown...

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    Nope,
    not anywhere right near it. Closed to all motor vehicles as of a few years ago... I made it in right before they did that. There is tons in the four corners area near monument valley etc...
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  3. the Luz

    the Luz Been here awhile

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    The best part of the GC is the North Rim. Everyone goes to the South Rim (that's why the North is better). The North Rim is closed now, to open next May or June (snow)

    There is a dirt road (I think about 30 miles) to a primative camp ground right on the rim. There are (I think) 2 sites right on the rim and 5 others right there. You have to truck in your water, food and everything, but that's the place you want to go.

    You'll find the trip in a 4 wheel drive book about Arizona. It gives waypoints and specific information and warnings.

    If you are at the South Rim, the North Rim is 5 hours away. Just takes some planning.
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  4. eskimo

    eskimo gunga-galunga

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    Try the west side of the north rim, paved roads from mesquite, nv. to colorado city, az., then about 70 miles of dirt past mount trumbull and down to toroweap lookout at canyon's rim.
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  5. HighwayChile

    HighwayChile greetings from Wa state

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    watch out around co. city, if yer bringin wimen folk, thats ground zero for the moron splinter group. :1drink

    actually you can ride in to the Colorado river and grand canyon, ya gotta go through the indian res, just get a permit, dont volunteer your on a MC.

    on the south side. go to vegas, take 95 south past hoover dam, turn left, towards flagstaff, way before, turn left, on indian res. , get permit, ride to the river.

    now i would stay on road in the res if I were you.
    since your near meadview, between there and kingman on the dirt road ( it runs into stockton hill road in kingman.. it goes by the biggest friggin joshua trees i've ever seen, way bigger the joshua tree monument
    best of luck , post some pics
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  6. MaddBrit

    MaddBrit Now officially a Yank.

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    hey Tiny,

    I did the Grand Canyon and Monument Valley on the way back from the Hodown.

    The Grand Canyon is tourist hell IMHO - very controlled with wall to wall coaches and fenced off lookouts. I was very dissapointed.

    Monument Valley ROCKS!!!! Great views - great 'energy' - and after you pay your $10 (I think..) to get in you can ride around in the dirt to your hearts content!
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  7. 40MileDesertRat

    40MileDesertRat Born Again Pagan

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    I agree, the North Rim is the place. You can do the trail below, or you can do the Toroweep road to one the most remote places you can visit without a boat or a horse in the Southern Canyon.

    See http://www.zionnational-park.com/toroweap.htm


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  8. Popey

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    South Rim is more picturesque, but probably 95+% of people go there, mainly 'cos the North Rim is so hard to get to. Lots of easy dirt close to the rim, as well as awesome riding in northern AZ and southern Utah, as you know.

    My guess is that now you've read Krakuer's book, ya wanna go there and find yerself 10 wifes, like all those Mormon fundamentalists' that live there...right :evil ?

    I made it to within about 2-3 miles of the North Rim in early May...a week before the road opened.

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    Here's the whole thread
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79876
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  9. viverrid

    viverrid not dead yet

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    I am no expert, having only been there a few times. But yeah there is a lot of dirt road riding and primitive camping in the area, just you're not gonna go to the Visitor's Center and then ride down the hiking trails into the main tourist areas of the canyon.

    And yup, what the guy said about the Indian Res having an access road - I believe some of the commercial rafters use that for their trucks, to re-supply or take out the rafts.

    The canyon is awesome. I have read that more than 90% of the visitors never go below ther rim. We took the overnight mule trip down to Phantom Ranch (at the bottom of the Canyon), you stay over and then return the next day. Phantom is entirely supplied by mule - no motor vehicles, though they do have running water. Canyon trivia - the water supply for the South Rim comes from the North Rim. You can see where water pipe is laid in some of the trail.

    Great area. You can backpack camp down in the Canyon, just can't ride around down there.
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