My father, brother, and I are going to ride the TAT this summer, and I have been getting nitpicky about some stuff. I am on my 790 R, my brother on a 390, and my dad on an Africa Twin DCT so he can still go despite his numb foot making shifting difficult (thank you, Honda, for making ADV riding possible there). Anyway, my dad is 6'3" and heavy. We have already done some test rides on parts of the TAT as well as in some really nasty muck and rocks that I think will not be common on our trip. Due to weight and such, naturally my dad's luggage will also be comparatively heavy. Here is the trouble. The Africa Twin lists around 392 pounds as its max weight. This seems really odd to me, as for the 790 the manual lists close to 1000 pounds as the 'maximum permissible weight' which I will of course not be anywhere near. How could the AT be so much less? Am I misunderstanding what max permissible weight is? Does it include the weight of the bike? Even if it did, that would still be a weight limit of more than 500 pounds. Is it just the quality of the suspension? Thanks for any info in advance.