What you're Missing: a Guide to Side Trips off the Cassiar

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by Crooked Creek, Aug 4, 2011.

  1. slowpoke69

    slowpoke69 Been here awhile

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    I agree 1000% with JIm! Personally, I think the snow makes everything look better. It just looks so pristine that you can almost believe this world isn't as f'd up as it is.

    Some great shots on the trip up, I too envy you!

    Now you've forced me to find your other RR's, I've REALLY enjoyed tis one, some must see stuff!:D
  2. riverman

    riverman Life is great !

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    Great report and photos as usual Ben. Keep up the great work!
  3. 40MileDesertRat

    40MileDesertRat Born Again Pagan

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    One of the primo stretches of road, anywhere.
  4. DocAxeYarYar

    DocAxeYarYar RideDualSport.com

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    Wow, really great report and ride! The WR is such a capable little bike its amazing. Rock solid reliable and the big IMS tank is a real plus.
    Amazing pictures, and a truely stunning part of the world. Thanks for taking us along!
  5. Crooked Creek

    Crooked Creek Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the kind words, guys. I can't wait until the snow melts. Recently added one of these to the arsenal:

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    Should open up a whole new realm of terrain to explore with the W250R...
  6. Gale B.T.

    Gale B.T. Long timer

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    Ben, you better start pumping some iron if you are gonna lift that WR into that little inflatable, your oars will need to be extra long for you will be sitting on top of the WR ,right???:lol3

    You could push/ride/drag the bike into the middle of 'boat' and then inflate with your tire air pump. ??? joke, sorry getting carried away.

    I am in for this one and it has not even started yet!! You have always had a way of teasing us in your RR's.

    ride dry, stay dry,

    gale
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=572583
  7. aquadog

    aquadog Dude Buddha

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    Hey Ben, is that going to reverse-bail once the WR is in it? :D
  8. Crooked Creek

    Crooked Creek Been here awhile

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    We'll find out :rofl. If the main purpose for the packraft was to float the bike I would have gotten a larger one with a solid double floor. I got a steal of a deal on this one though and I wanted to be able to do real (class IV) whitewater w/o a spray deck. I think when the weight is centered on the tubes, it'll float plenty high (though there will likely be some reverse bailing.)
  9. Lornce

    Lornce Lost In Place

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    How small does that pack up?

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  10. aquadog

    aquadog Dude Buddha

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    Now these...there are RAFTS! Although I also have some SOARs, which are a lot of fun...

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  11. Crooked Creek

    Crooked Creek Been here awhile

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    Self bailing is stage left, regular on the right.

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    And they are tough as nails :clap.

    Haha, well when you can fit one in your tank bag, let me know :D.
  12. Crooked Creek

    Crooked Creek Been here awhile

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    Whoops, missed this first time around.

    No need to increase my already gigantic biceps :rofl, simply drop bike onto it's side on the raft. (That I CAN do...) It inflates with an ultralight nylon inflation bag. Weighs next to nothing and super quick.
  13. Lornce

    Lornce Lost In Place

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    Tres cool.

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  14. aquadog

    aquadog Dude Buddha

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  15. Gale B.T.

    Gale B.T. Long timer

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    Ben, since I still have family in PG and will be riding that direction when this white stuff goes away::)), I do not want to miss this RR with the bike , you and that rubber raft, please give us some warning on when you start.

    Looking forward as always to your wit, pics, and sharing abilities.

    adios, gale
  16. Crooked Creek

    Crooked Creek Been here awhile

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    Now I just need to find some water...
  17. Gale B.T.

    Gale B.T. Long timer

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    ""Now I just need to find some water...""

    Ben , they may let you use the local community pool or motel pool to test your raft but I am not sure they will let you also test putting the bike in the raft and using those oars:D

    I wish I could offer some help with that water, we are gettin at least a foot of new white stuff right now, over 5 feet laying in the yard. Only thumper I can use right now is the snow blower.:lol3

    keep that RR coming, it's all that keeping some of us sane.
    gale
  18. leftystrat62

    leftystrat62 Adventurer

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    I've been reading through this report as well as your first one in hopes to learn a thing or two about this area which I'd like to ride next year. I was hoping between your hunting background,and you living in bear country, you might enlighten me with some bear know how. I ride/camp in Northern New England where there is black bear-but we never seem to see them. I sometimes hang my food in a bear bag,although I never see others doing that. I'll be quite frank in saying that the prospect of seeing a grizzly really scares me,especially since I'll be riding solo.
    I know enough not to get near a mother & her cub,or to try to make noises so you don't sneak up on one accidentally,but you saw so many and came close to them a few time on your bike that I wonder what I'm getting into. I run into burning buildings for a living,hang from my finger tips 1000' off the deck while climbing,and enjoy them both;but grizzly's...I just don't know.:eek1
  19. Crooked Creek

    Crooked Creek Been here awhile

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    Unfortunately, the nearest pool is an hour away and for some reason there is no scheduled packrafting time... I have made a contact with the nearest kayak club though, so we'll see. Also there is a lake not too far from here that they aerate in the winter to keep the trout alive. There should be some open water there, but launching on the thin ice will be the tricky part.

    Honestly, I don't think you need to worry about it. (Disclaimer: If you get eaten by a bear...my bad.) But seriously, if you're riding on remote roads and trails that hardly get traffic the real danger is hitting a bear with your bike, not getting "attacked." Even then, if you're traveling at reasonable speeds, the danger is minimal because bears don't tend to bolt across the road like deer. More often then not, they'll ignore you (if they're used to vehicles) or just wheel around and head back to the bush. Usually, they are near the road because it's the only place in the area with nice grass to eat. And that's really all they're there for. Eating grass.

    I came close to lots of bears because I wanted to. I could have just drove on by. It's extremely unlikely that a bear will attack a running motorcycle (though it has happened.) Even a sow with cubs will generally want to push the cubs to cover or up a tree and the closest trees will be away from you. If you're on there road and they are in the ditch, you're fine.

    That said there will always be the odd crazy bear. Don't let anyone tell you that all bears/wolves/whatever are just as scared of you as you are of them. That's just not true. But you'll probably only meet a crazy in camp (if you ever do, which you probably won't.) Usually it's a two year old male black bear with the right (wrong?) adolescent combination of stupidity and cockiness. With a sow/cubs (which will almost never come into a camp unless it's a well established food source for them) you'll want to be as not threatening as possible, and back away slowly, but with these little guys you'll need to be aggressive and just chase them off like you would an aggressive dog, act "big", be loud and move slowly towards them, throwing rocks or whatever. Or you could just leave.

    I would wager at the vast majority of reported "bear attacks" are bluff charges. I've been "charged" literally dozens of times (almost always by young black bears at bear baits, or when I was being stupid, ie... chasing a sow with cubs trying to get them to give my stuff back.) If their ears are not laid back, they're just testing you. I've never had to kill an aggressive bear, even when caught in a tree with cubs above me and momma below (not that I had a gun that time anyways.) If it's a real defensive charge, it'll come so fast you'll only have time to tuck and roll and then it'll probably leave you alone once it figures out you're not a threat. I've never seen an aggressive grizzly, and unless you are stealth bushwhacking on a bear trail, neither will you.

    Re: camping, it usually takes a couple days for a bear to get brave enough to try and rob your camp, so if you move every day you minimize that. As far are hanging your food in trees, I have never done that. One, because I am too lazy, and two, because that's exactly how you bait bears. If they're any scent coming from that bag, then the higher it is, the farther that scent will travel. I'd rather have a bear steal my food and wander off into the bush to eat it then spend hours trying to get it in a tree beside me (and they will.) I have seen black bear's shimmy ninja style upside down on a rope between two trees, and then pry open a bucket to get bait inside... Even the scent free food canister bag thing to me is a little strange, because then, if you you have any food residue etc on your person or in your tent then you're the most "foody" thing around. I'd much rather it be my food bag that gets sniffed in the middle of the night.

    But again, you'll be fine. I routinely fry fish in bear county (putting the guts and leftovers in the river) and have yet to see a bear in camp. It's way more likely to run into a "problem" bear at a campsite than in the wilderness. If you're really worried (and see lots of bear sign where you're camping) then chose a more open spot as young bears don't feel as safe rooting around. I like to sleep by rivers; for fishing, but also that way every squirrel, mouse and rabbit crunching in the bush doesn't wake you up thinking "BEAR!" And that way, if a bear does eat you, as least you will go peacefully in your sleep.
  20. yellowknife

    yellowknife Is In Canada

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    Great post on the bear stuff CC. I have wanted to chime in on this issue for a while to give my two cents worth.

    When I have seen a bear it is usually already walking away from me. I have seen a few in my travels, including the dreaded griz.

    My father had the misfortune of getting between a mother and two griz cubs. I recommend anyone in this situation do what he did, and climb up on top of your aircraft. The bears usually just shake the aircraft for a while and then leave. :D