When did 125's start to be considerd kids bikes ?

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  1. JeffS77

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    Oooops typo in the title

    I cruise other forums and people dog on adults wanting a 125 . They say they are too small (same size as a 250) or too slow (moderns 125's make 30hp and weight in at 200lbs) a lot of people consider them kids bikes.

    Blows my mind how people dog on 125's. I love the little smokers and think they actually make people better riders who ride them regularly. No big torque to compensate for your crappy cornering habits :lol3 I think the majority of recreational riders have gotten lazy :D it takes skill to ride a 125 I guess it is a learning curve most people today don't want to deal with.

    I have been thinking of building a late 90's YZ125 with a flywheel weight and a lighting coil as my main play bike for desert and single track. But what do I know.
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  2. MATTY

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    I dont think that they ever did, but bikes have got more comon in larger capacitys this last 20 years so i guess you could put some sort of date around that time when perhaps 125s seemed more on the small side.
    A 500cc was a bigish bike back in the day with the old triumphs and the like, but 900ccs and 1000ccs are more common than 500s now.
    125s have historic conections with yuth in minor motorsport like the old BSA bantan 125s in the school boy scrambles in the uk, and 125 being the biggest legal engine size for youngsters under 16 in trials in the uk for example, and probably similar rules exist abroad i imagine.
    A little more off topic here and not wanting a thread hyjack here, i think the apparent obsesion with large motorcycles is a little sad smaler bikes can provide a lot of fun its not all about HP and today even 250s & 350s are viewed as tiddlers by the majority of riders.
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  3. JeffS77

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    I guess I visit thumper talk too much...were if it ain't a 450 it ain't shit and 125's seem to be baby girl bikes :lol3 and a 250f is like the smallest you would want to ride.
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  4. PJay

    PJay Any bike, anywhere

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    This is just the reciprocal of what I see on a couple of other motorcycle forums I inhabit: so many folk have 1000cc+ as their first machine.

    No wonder they've never learned to ride...
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  5. Ever Onward

    Ever Onward Older,Wiser, Smarter

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    Back in the mid to late 70's I raced MX.

    Very common in 125 B class to have 40 to 50 guys on the start line for a moto ! :eek1

    You learned real quick how to deal with tight, intense, crowded racing if you were a middle of the pack guy like me.

    125 A class turned lap times just as fast as 250 and open on a tough course too.


    125 Road Racing also had some seriously fast lap times on the tighter courses. Allways admired anybody who could keep the velocity way up there, wide open and row a 125 through the gearbox ! :clap
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  6. dhallilama

    dhallilama Long timer

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    i dunno; wouldn't want my kids jumping on a 125 (2 stroke) without knowing what they're getting on.

    last 125 i had (late 80s YZ) flat out ripped. not a bike for beginners. fun, though :)
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  7. JarrettP

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    I think the problem is that you're browsing ThumperTalk... My girlfriend's 93 YZ125 is just as fast as my 92 KDX200. The 200 is definitely much more kid friendly. More then likely they just laugh at the thought of anything under 450cc until something like this happens to them.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAGkSewD1Ls
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    I am knocking on in years now but still stayed fairly trim, so a 125 will still haul my but around quite good. You could give me an old 125 bantam D1 or D3 and i could still go off for a ride on it in the back roads and farm tracks and still have a lot of fun with next to no horse power and 50mph , perhaps i am just easily pleased but i enjoy anything on two wheels its just how i feel its not got to be 100+hp. :D
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  9. BravoTango

    BravoTango That's just like,your opinion, man.

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    Idk if these will show up or not But Renner makes them look fun.
    I learned to trail ride SETRA on a kx80 and I've never found anything I like more than riding 2-strokes. I can rip a 125 through some single track faster than I can anything else.

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  10. imsroll

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    At 6'5 260lbs (on a light day) I have a kx500 husky 360 beta 300 ect ect plenty of big bore 2 strokes. but yet at the beginning of the day if the ride does not consist of wide open roads i always ride a yz125, nothing makes your friends jaw drop like kicking there ass all day long on what they call a "kids" bike.
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  11. JeffS77

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    We are the same size.. Nice to see the 125 working for you. I had been thinking of getting a KX500 a lot lately but the last desert trip I went on I realized I wouldn't even be using 50% of its potential. I have always been a " it's more fun the ride a slow bike fast then a fast bike slow" kind of guy. My main ride is a TLR 200 :eek1

    So longer story short. I am 99% sure I will be building a 125 as soon as I get my '64 B40 done in he next few weeks. So I am thinking re spring and valve are #1 priority next will probably be proper pipe and fly wheel weight and maybe a lighting coil. We like to ride at night during full moons.
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  12. imsroll

    imsroll BigBoreSavant

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    The K5 is a awesome bike. yes it's hard to use all the power, impossible at that. A 125 however you just hold it wide open, shift, turn and enjoy the smile on your face :lol3
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    I run circles around my buddies 450+ atvs on my KE 100,.. they didnt know how the hell I was keeping up with em... its knowing how to push your machine....
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  14. woodsrider-boyd

    woodsrider-boyd Wow, these guys are fast

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    6'6", 210 or so, 54 yrs old. Love my '06 Husky WR125, the thing rips, great trail bike. Cheap as hell too.
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    Bucho DAMNrider

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    +1000
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    Back in the day I used to love wringing out a two stroke 125 in the woods and on a track. Any place where light weight and a punchy motor work is huge fun. I started out on a KE125 way back when and loved that piece of crap. Every bike since has gotten progressively more powerful. These days I would much rather sit on my ass and surf huge power.

    But, then, for some reason there is a street legal MXC200 in my garage that I bought for God only knows what reason and now can't quite bring myself to sell. Plus the guy posting right before me is probably laughing his ass off after bailing me out on the 640 once while riding a not terribly hard trail that would have been like riding a highway on that 200. :lol3
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  17. kruzuki

    kruzuki Gear in the Machine

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    I dont think they sold the new Honda CB125 in the U.S. but they're popular up here. You can pick up a brand new one on sale for $2999.99 and you see them all over the place.

    They're still thought of as mostly beginner's bikes and Craigslist is littered with nearly new ones for sale, but lots of city riders use them instead of scooters.
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  18. JeffS77

    JeffS77 cheap bastard

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    Gonna bring this one back from the dead.

    I bought a new '15 Husqvarna TE125 at the end of '16 for a killer price and I couldnt be happier. Best all around trail bike I have ever owned and have even had fun hitting the MX track with it. Went to WP got some bigger springs played with the clickers a little and called it good. Added some cheap acerbis hand guards and a moose pipe guard.
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    It is everything I want in a small bike. I could have bought and older 125 for pretty cheap and thrown some money at it but this thing right out of the box had everything I wanted. Good bottom end for a one two five and a wide ratio 6 speed makes its a pure joy to ride.

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  19. Navin

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    125s rock in the woods. I don't have one because in MX I'm old and lazy and can't be trusted to catch a gear in the face if a jump now they are all built for the 250f/450f bikes.

    But on a natural track I'd take one and enjoy being slower.

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  20. jeep44

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    When men started weighing 250+ lbs?
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