Where are your XT250's...let's see them.

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by MEDIC-0372, Nov 4, 2008.

  1. twinrider

    twinrider Pass the catnip

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    Most people are gearing up, not down. Other than at 60 mph+ on the highway, where it gets a bit too buzzy, I'm happy with it as well. If I only did back roads, no issues.
  2. Milano.B

    Milano.B Been here awhile

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    Agree, Yamaha engineers settle on the sweet spot for 15t CS. Yes we would love the 6th gear transmission but that might be next life.

    Here are pics of that Double Black Diamond Trail, both riding XT225
    It is Much Steeper that it appears (see tree angle on right center).
    We stop to inspect the terrain (looking down)

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    My friend has 14t CS and mine is OEM 15t

    Below picture, this is what we have to Climb, Going UP and UP :eekers :eekers :eekers... hiking up midway with riding boot was difficult.
    Essentially we are riding on the ridge line.
    There is no option to go back as it there was a super steep hill.

    His XT climbed up no problem (real Serow).
    Friend is a better rider so he rode mine up with some struggle (including a few Unintentional wheelie).

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    After that ride I developed a Deep Respect for the XT :thumb

    Although I don't do Black Diamond trail anymore but still ride Easy trail with the XT250.
    Even on new 'easy trails', certain portion of it, it would be nice to have 14t...
    16t should be OK on the black top but not an option on dirt.

    On the freeway, I can feel some slight power increase for the XT250 compared to the XT225.
    No problem cruising 65-70mph.
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  3. twinrider

    twinrider Pass the catnip

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    Black Diamond looks fun. When I went from a DR250 to a KTM 350 EXC-F it me go from Clark Kent to Superman on stuff like that.

    I also tried the 14T on my XT. Great on dirt, but not on the highway.
  4. JB44

    JB44 Been here awhile

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    :-)
    Sounds too easy to be true.... :-)

    I'm pretty sure there is no 30 mm wrench in the XT tool kit, but I will check.

    jb
  5. CloudSplitter

    CloudSplitter Putterer

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    That sounds worth a try, especially if in trouble on the trail, but unfortunately won't work well for an XT250, since the wheel nuts are 19 mm and the countershaft sprocket is 30 mm (per the first post on this topic, but the threads are 18 mm). Also the chain sprocket ratio is working to reduce torque at the countershaft, but the mass of the wheel should help if we yank it against the chain slack. The only tools I carry with that large an opening are channel-lock pliers and a crescent wrench. Maybe the crescent will work out

    As for workers producing that 1,800 ft lbs, mentioned above, they COULD, and DID, do it with a 10 foot pipe on the bar of the torque wrench. but there were 4 nuts per clamp, and 12 clamps per machine, so they couldn't be relied on to tighten them all properly. If not all tightened, the clamps could move during production. Thus the need for a large impact wrench. Of course that was no picnic, either, since it weighted around a hundred pounds. By the way, the square drive size on those sockets was 1 inch, I think.
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  6. CloudSplitter

    CloudSplitter Putterer

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    If you could find an aluminum tire iron with a 30 mm box end wrench on the other end, I'd recommend that, but both Tusk and Motion Pro jump from 27 mm to 32 mm. Of course I haven't verified that 30 mm size that jb44 mentioned, but I believe him. Then again, it's likely that you can make it out of the wilderness with a worn sprocket, so maybe I'd stick with the 22 mm on one, and 12 mm on the other, that I have now. Very much better than those two steel ones I used to carry.

    Edit: Now I've found a tire lever with a 30 mm box end, but they won't ship to the USA. Maybe some more time searching will find a source for these Sherco levers:
    https://www.roadrunnermoto.com.au/tusk-aluminum-tire-tyre-lever-spoon-with-axle-span
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  7. nvklr

    nvklr Been here awhile

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  8. CloudSplitter

    CloudSplitter Putterer

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    Aha. Found a source for the Tusk tire lever with 30 mm box end:
    http://www.gnarlyparts.ca/Tusk-Aluminum-Tire-Iron-with-Axle-Wrench_p_2557.html

    I also found that Walmart lists them, but is out of stock. Oh well.
    Thought you might be able to get one at the Tusk site,
    http://www.tuskoffroad.com/
    but they just point you to Rocky Mtn, who don't carry the 30 mm size.

    OK, now you can get one, and not too expensive ($20 plus $9, shipping to the US), but do you want to. I'd take off that cover and see if it looks like it would work, first, and then think about whether you want that or the 12 mm small one to fit the valve stem and rim lock nuts. You could always just store your OEM 12 mm wrench with your tire levers, as well as your spark plug socket and 22 mm tire lever, so maybe a 30 mm wrench makes more sense.

    Edit: As I think about it, I like the idea of using the bottom of an old crutch for an adjustable-height support for the right side of the bike, when changing tires. Before placing it to support the engine, you might be able to use it to extend the length of your tire lever/box wrench.
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  9. Tiger Ride

    Tiger Ride Been here awhile

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    For those really steep rocky trails, w/ cruddy stuff at the top?

    ...It may be.


    Found myself shifting a lot b/t 1st and 2nd, and 2nd and 3rd.

    Hard to keep momentum/traction.

    Fussy - for a bike w/ so much torque.


    W/ the 16T... not so much.

    Ride the same kind of ridge trails in the Mojave... 1st and 2nd do fine.

    Just need to be able to ride that extra 1/3-2/3 mph faster at 5-10 mph to make the same power.

    Traction/momentum - is also better w/ the little extra speed.

    And the up-rated springs really help out with that.

    This is in Los Padres NF.

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    The 16T adds 1 mph/15 mph... or 4mph at 60.

    With the bigger D606 rear tire, it trues the speedo and acts as a half an overdrive.

    65 mph - is an honest 65 mph cruiser.




    GR
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  10. Tiger Ride

    Tiger Ride Been here awhile

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    Had a nice trail ride up in Idyllwild OHV this Friday.

    Beautiful day, not much dust, Buddy and I owned the place - not a crossed bike/quad/SUV in Six(6) hours of riding.

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    "It's good to be the King."

    8>)




    GR
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  11. CloudSplitter

    CloudSplitter Putterer

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    Nice bike. Best color, too.

    Watch out you don't get anything behind that exhaust.
  12. CrashBar

    CrashBar Just Wanna Ride Supporter

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    Looking at a 2010 XT250, low miles and claimed mostly street use. Other than checking out any carb issues from sitting, anything else mechanical to look for unique to the XT? Looks stock. I'm familiar with the used bike drill but I need a runner and desperately need to a avoid another "project".
  13. CloudSplitter

    CloudSplitter Putterer

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    CrashBar, that question was recently addressed here:
    https://advrider.com/f/threads/yama...o-modifications.1341366/page-54#post-40953457

    Just read a couple pages, starting there.
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  14. CrashBar

    CrashBar Just Wanna Ride Supporter

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  15. NJ-Brett

    NJ-Brett Brett

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    I thought my 2019 XT250 was geared perfect and did not miss a 6 speed trans.
    1st was low enough with a great amount of low end torque and 5th was nice at 70 mph with nice gears between.
    Even with taller tires, the gearing was still good.
  16. CaseyJones

    CaseyJones Ridin' that train

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    Did the XT250 ever come with a carb?

    I thought they went with FI when they upgraded the engine from 225 to 250.

    Are you sure it's not an XT225? Or, could it be a Frankenstein project, with the block off a 250 but the carb off a 225?
  17. buckthedog

    buckthedog Eastbound and down

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    They came with carbs until 2012 or something like that. But yes, they did for the first few years of their run.
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  18. randypower

    randypower Been here awhile Supporter

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    Yeah, 2008-2012 were carb and have been known to be notoriously difficult to start after sitting for a couple of weeks or longer. When I had my 09, i bought a high powered lithium battery to have enough cranking power.

    The easy workaround is to drain the carb before parking it for more than a day or two.
  19. TDC_ERock

    TDC_ERock Been here awhile Supporter

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    Indeed. I have the 2013 - first year with FI.
  20. bikeneil

    bikeneil Been here awhile

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    I had a 2008 for 10 years and never had any starting problems after sitting, only replaced the battery once and never drained the carb.
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