Which 1 ton truck?

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  1. gratefulJED

    gratefulJED long strange tripper

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    I hope this is the right forum for this question. I also hope and am not inciting a war. I have only owned a Ford 7.3 but I need a new truck. 4 door 4x4 a must. Anyone with experience with all 3 modern day variants? My kid is saying duramax this cummins allison that. Where the hell is Toyota in all this? I don't need bells and whistles, shit i just celebrated my 60th in quarantine and couldn't even go out for a marg and relleno. I suppose the question comes down to best engine and drivetrain, but what do I know. Honest answers appreciated.
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  2. OhBoy

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    Furst.
    Get another Ferd...
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  3. gratefulJED

    gratefulJED long strange tripper

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    thas wat im tinkin
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  4. 77rs

    77rs Adventurer

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    Take a look around all the hotshot truckers use Cummins aka dodge.
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  5. Mountainhound

    Mountainhound Long timer

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    Why not get another ford this time with the 6.7.
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  6. boardrider247

    boardrider247 Weekend Anarchist

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    Need more information.
    What are you using the truck for? How long will you be keeping it?

    Personally my next truck for toting around a camper is going to be a Ford with the 6.2Lgas engine
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  7. ydarg

    ydarg Miscreant

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    You can get a brand new Ford with a 7.3
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  8. acesandeights

    acesandeights Noob

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    Ford F350, XL, Crew Cab, 7.3L gas, 4x4, E-locker. Put good tires on it and go anywhere you'd ever want to take a truck that size. I know this isn't JM, but you'd have to be a moran to buy anything else. A moran.
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    tominboise Long timer

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    Do you need a Diesel? Long box or short?
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  10. Brokenhorse

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    All new diesel trucks have a major problem in common, that is the problematic and expensive emission systems.
    Very good idea to determine if you truly need diesel power and exhaust brake and are willing to pay to play.
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  11. beemerkid

    beemerkid Do you ADV

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    If I hadn't purchased a truck right before they came out of be talking a hard look at the Ford with the 7.3 gas. If you don't NEED diesel power these days, the emissions equipment is more trouble than it's worth. The 7.3 gas will be much more liveable on a daily basis and should tow most loads just fine.
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  12. gmiguy

    gmiguy You rode a what to where?

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    They're all excellent and ludicrously capable. Drive as many as possible and buy the one that is the best fit for you in terms of driving experience, ergonomics, seats, sightlines, and cupholders.

    I also recommend reconsidering if your application requires a Diesel. If it does not (and most don't) then modern gasoline powertrains are very nearly as competent and less expense and hassle.
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  13. broncobowsher

    broncobowsher Long timer

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    If you like the old 7.3 for the simplicity, the new 6.7 is completely different. Almost double the power. But there is so much crap going on a lot of people are just giving up on diesel these days. That 6.7 has 2 separate cooling systems, 2 different filler necks. And put the wrong juice in the wrong hole and it will be over $10k to fix.

    The cummins is a great hot shot engine. Run them long, run them hard. Daily driver, not so great. GM, well the Duramax rivals the Ford in complexity.

    Really what are you going to be doing with it? I have friends who are looking to get rid of the 6.7 diesel and just get the 7.3 gas. The fuel economy isn't that different (diesel fuel economy has dropped a lot since the 7.3 powerstroke days). You don't have the $10k diesel premium when you buy it. No DEF. No regen cycle. It's just a good old pushrod gas V8. Fuel economy is down slightly over diesel, but diesel prices are higher.
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  14. h2o_snow

    h2o_snow Water, snow & dirt too.

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    Good points.

    Have a gas Ford and carry a pu camper. Also drive in mountains. Let torque sucks while towing.

    Going diesel for the next rig (but not a DD).

    Like the big Fords. Little - had 3 tacos in the prior life - super dependable.
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    larryboy Stable genius.

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    I'd probably go with the F250, but this... don't be a moran.
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    jersey jim Long timer

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    Personally, I would take a serious look at the previously mentioned gas 7.3 in the F250/F350. Too much pain in the ass stuff to deal with on the modern diesels, unless you really really need diesel.
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  17. StittWall

    StittWall Been here awhile

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    I guess a big question is do you want diesel or gas?
    I have a 2500 Chevrolet with 6.0 gas. I like it and it tows my camper well.
    If I had to buy again, I would look at the 6.6 gas chevy and the Ford 7.3 gas. But I am not a diesel buyer at this time.
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    TwilightZone Long timer Supporter

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    Aha... but the modern diesel exhaust brake... which is heaven sent... as is Cummins torque.
    Then the bad thing... gotta clean up the exhaust passage after 70K.
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  19. gratefulJED

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    Thanks fellas, lots of good info. We I guess fell into the diesel koolaid vat. Truth be told, Ive heard that they need to be used regular or problems will arise. This truck will be kept for a loooong time, but used little comparatively speaking. Horses and hay mostly. I just don't know Chevy or Dodge. I suppose we will stick with Ford. Thank you all....
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  20. Mountainhound

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    If someone is to stupid to put the def in the fuel or fuel in the def thier to stupid to own a truck in the first place, it's not rocket science. The new gas motors put out very respectable hp and torque numbers and when i had to buy a new truck last August I seriously considered getting one because it's not like I have to have diesel, but when I looked at the numbers side by side there was no way I could leave that much torque and horse power on the table whether I needed it or not. Oh and whoever said people aren't buying diesel isn't looking because I see a shit ton of them.
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