Which is the better street bike the DR650 or the CRF450l?

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  1. Bhart89

    Bhart89 Long timer Supporter

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    Between the DR650 with a pumper carb, GSXR exhaust and better seat and a CRF450l with a 3 gal tank and aftermarket seat which would be the more comfortable street bike. Not comparing off road riding, strictly twisty back country paved or gravel roads. (35-50mph speeds). Thoughts?
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  2. dankatz

    dankatz Been here awhile

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    The DR, no questions about it. Bigger, heavier, more torque and more stable
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  3. duckster1959

    duckster1959 Been here awhile

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    I love my 450L, but it is terrible on the street if you ask me at anything above 50 mph. It is fine below that.
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  4. cyclopathic

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    As it usually happens with this type of threads.. SWM Superdual would be a better choice

    +1 on DR lower seat, a few more ponies than CRF

    SD is basically a modern DR with modern suspension, EFI and all goodies you'd usually put on travel bike.
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  5. KYwoodsrider

    KYwoodsrider Been here awhile

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    I've had a DR and currently have s 450L with stock motor, exhaust, aftermarket seat and 3 gal tank.
    For under 50 mph I like the 450L.
    Its quiter, smoother, better shifting, and has better suspension.
    It also handles much better with luggage than the DR.
    Over 50 mph the DR is better.
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  6. Bhart89

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    Thanks for the replies. Looking at dyno charts I see the DR is somewhere in the neighborhood of 30-35 torque while the CRF is closer to 20-30 foot pounds in the RPM range I spend most of my time in. (3-6k)

    what about from a vibration perspective?
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  7. sieg

    sieg Wearing out tires......2 at a time, day after day. Supporter

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    DR from all perspectives.
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  8. Bultaco206

    Bultaco206 Back-to-back motos suck Supporter

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    My 450L doesn’t vibrate. I’d ride it anywhere, and do. But I’m a dirtbike guy. If you’re not, then it will be an acquired taste for you that may never come. I owned a well-sorted DR for a few years. It was ok. But it quickly became expendable, so I sold it.

    My best advice is to ignore the spec sheets and ride each rather than relying on an Internet message board. Then decide. But I have a hunch you’d be happier on a DR.
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  9. KYwoodsrider

    KYwoodsrider Been here awhile

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    The CRF has minimal vibration.
    I usually ride my CRF below 5500 rpms
    Vibration was one of the issues I did not like about the DR.
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  11. Navin

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    You can weld a cannonball to the CRF and make it a better street bike? Yeah, ride both. Ive yet to ride a street bike that was too light and my current is about #250. You can get more from less with modern engine designs and f.i. plus a sixth gear boxy. Precision, fit, finish.... And throttle response too. No, you cant ride a dyno sheet.

    But if you halve tew axe.... eh Durrrrrr might be fore yew.
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  12. Adanac rider

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    Do the gravel roads have a lot of potholes ? 450 L if suspension is a concern . Will you be doing any rides longer than an hour on Hiways , if so the DR is probably better .
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  13. worncog

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    A DR with a pumper carb, rejet, and suspension upgrades is the Jeep of the moto world. Does everything good. With a 15/42 will hum along at 70 all day, albeit a loud hum.
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  14. cyclopathic

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    Mildly uncorked DR with carb and exhaust usually makes low 40s and stock CRF 450 is 38.6hp IIRC
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  15. dankatz

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    For those roads, I prefer my Ducati Scrambler the most :-)
    I had a DR650 and for a large thumper it is relatively speaking smooth. I had a sargent low seat and it was comfortable. The CRF is much better off road if you compare stock, but that was not your question
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    No bike with finer road manners
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  17. SRG

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    Good up to 50?

    What do you do w/ the other half of your D/S ride?
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  18. Copracer288

    Copracer288 How hard can it be?

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    The simple answer, IMO, is the DR. As already mentioned, you should test ride both. If you test ride a stock DR just know that your basic jetting/airbox/exhaust mods will really wake up the DR and make it a lot more fun.

    I will say that I just replaced my DR with a 690 Enduro R and couldn’t be happier. To me it feels like a modern day DR with MUCH more power and better suspension.
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  19. N8

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    You really have 2 options here. WR250R, or the wrong bike.
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  20. MVI

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    Fixed it for Ya
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