Who else lives with the Black Dog?

Discussion in 'Australia' started by FatBoyCrash, Jun 24, 2009.

  1. trokel

    trokel Vinduro - Old dirtbikes are more fun

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    Reading this thread from the start in one go as I just have is a lot to take in. There are so many posts that I want to take quotes from. I have not gone to see anyone to be diagnosed and find it very difficult to talk about this. But reading this has got me thinking.
    I did however find the following words of Bigdad interesting.

    For me there is no particular thing that seems to trigger it and I am continually searching for a reason why I feel the way I do. I keep telling myself I should be happy and that I have no reason to feel this way and after a while I seem to get better, but before long that dog has me by the leg again. This is the main reason I bought a bike again after not having had one for 4yrs, I was hoping that I might be able to outrun it, but lately I am thinking that I should have bought a much faster bike. When it takes hold I struggle to get out of bed in the morning, I want to quit my job,I can't concentrate, I avoid talking to family and friends and feel like I can't go on anymore. I am trying to keep it under control but some days I just don't feel like I want to be happy.

    Looking at what I have just written is making me think that maybe I need some help but I don't like doctors or pills.

    As for the idea of a ride to raise money/ awareness I think it is a great idea and would like to be involved if I can.
  2. BigFella44

    BigFella44 Been here awhile

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    G'day Troy

    Mate if you have taken the first step in self diagnosis, you are two thirds there mate! If you find a doctor that you trust, go have a yarn with them. If you find it hard to "talk" to a doctor, write it down mate! Just the way you have written it here. They are the best starting place, believe me mate. Don't feel you are alone, if you want to talk to someone ring me on 0419 482592 (Glenn) I am happy to talk any time of the day or night. Although it can be daunting, it doesn't have to be that way forever. Talking to someone who understands is the first step!
    Troy, you have guts mate. You will be alright mate!

    Cheers Glenn.
  3. bigdag

    bigdag vicarious rider, surfer..

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    The GP, with some exceptions, is just a step in the right direction. It's his/her job to refer you to a specialist with more expertise in the area, whether a psychologist or psychiatrist.
    Don't wait until everything crashes down around you, whether family instability, work difficulties, or worse.

    Another important reason is the rule of thumb for mental illness. Early intervention is much more successful. Generally speaking, the longer it's untreated, the longer and more difficult the intervention. Having said that, it's never too late to start.

    Good luck.
    Dag.
  4. OldOzy

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    We must keep this thread active , ive been a bit distracted , but id like to thank molars for reminding me to continue participating in the good work that FatBoyCrash started.

    Thanks once again. I will return to artwork and logos as soon as i can.
  5. HumanOne

    HumanOne shows Nomadic tendencies

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    Good on you Phil for handing the postie ride over to this charity :clap

    Post up an address where we can send our donations when you get the chance - it would be interesting to see the amount of funds raised grow via a continually updated thread here too :eek1

    And hats off to you FatBoy for getting a ball rolling on an issue that never seems to go away for men everywhere :thumbup

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    One of the things that confirmed I should cut free and go on a personal journey back in 2006 was the alarming amount of stories I heard and people I knew that had taken their own lives through suicide. It was surprising how many of their stories were not your stereotypical 'down in the dumps' kind. People who seemed to have everything going right for them on the outside, financial success, loving families, plenty of mates, etc - however they must have been struggling with the dreaded Black Dog on the inside. I have a friend who has suffered since he was 18 and to meet him you wouldn't know, a lovely bloke and a pleasure to know, but he's explained how debilitating it is for him and it absolutely affects every decision and choice he makes with his life.

    I realized that too many things were consuming too much of my thinking time back then that didn't line up with who I really was. The job was 'Groundhog Day', the relationship was more than testing, life had become a shade of dull grey. I had become a good little robot trying so hard to make sure everyone around me was happy but totally neglecting my own happiness in the process.

    I don't know if it was depression or not, I didn't think I needed help, but I felt pretty low at the time and knew that I had to change all of those things I wasn't happy with in order to stop myself questioning everything all the time.

    I guess it was easy for me to stop myself sliding downhill because I was in a position to change everything. It was only a decision and I knew it had to be done. I don't have kids and wasn't married at the time, so I could pull out of my commitments, and a job is only a job, it doesn't define who we are, but I can imagine how it must be for those blokes who are so "locked in" in every respect to all sorts of commitments, responsibilities and expectations from partners, wives, kids, employers, banks - that it seems like there's no escape.

    I realize how fortunate I was to have the opportunity I did at the time and it was instrumental in changing the course of my life for the better forever. A definitive turning point in my life. I had gone the wrong way and needed to turn back completely - and rather than head straight up another path that could have been wrong for me again - I needed to just take 'intermission' and let my mind settle back down again.

    If you can do it - I strongly recommend taking "intermission" half-way through your life, rather than waiting for retirement to do all the things you have dreamed of. There are way too many stories of people not even making it to retirement for starters, but more importantly - if you've been travelling up some wrong path that doesn't line up with who you are in the inside - then retirement isn't going to make it all better.

    Personally I feel the only way to free up your thought patterns is to 'turn off' for a while. I reckon you need to get to a point where you don't feel the pressures of society as best you can, before your mind is functioning normally. We really are programmed little robots in Western society and sometimes we need to 'reformatt our hard drives' and 'defrag' our minds before we can function correctly.

    I know that was a bit of blabbing on, but it's just my personal outlook and maybe there's something in there that triggers another line of thought for yourself.

    Take Care and Good Luck with the cause. I think it's a worthy and relevant thread and I am sure that riding somewhere amongst nature on a bike is as close to total freedom and escaping that most men feel they are able to afford themselves.

    :thumbup
  6. BigFella44

    BigFella44 Been here awhile

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    [We really are programmed little robots in Western society and sometimes we need to 'reformatt our hard drives' and 'defrag' our minds before we can function correctly.]


    Great read mate, welcome aboard the "Hogwartz Night Train"!
    Not too sure about how to "defrag" though?
    Sounds a bit too much like marking lambs in the old days!!!!!

    Cheers BigFella44:freaky
  7. Mototrans

    Mototrans Been here awhile

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    Quote HumanOne -
    It was surprising how many of their stories were not your stereotypical 'down in the dumps' kind. People who seemed to have everything going right for them on the outside, financial success, loving families, plenty of mates, etc -
    :thumbup[/QUOTE]


    :thumb therefore, you don't have the right to be depressed....
  8. OldOzy

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    GOT IT,,,, I just do the best i can, Thanks.
  9. Blakduk

    Blakduk Don’t be too practical.

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    I was so depressed, full of self loathing, hatred and disgust for myself the other day that when I tried to have a wank it didn't work for me until I imagined I was a different guy......????!!!!??? LOL :loco
  10. Shmerel

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    now that cheered up some inmates here :D
  11. MOLAHS

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    Know just how you feel, who did you pretend to be ?
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  12. BigFella44

    BigFella44 Been here awhile

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    G'day fellow inmates,

    I am in need of some support guys, I have been living with depression for a while now. Recently my business has taken a turn for the worst and that black dog is looming closer every day.
    Can't talk to my wife, dont want to upset her. She has a high stress job and she keeps the kids and me on an even keel.
    Family are concerned as am I, but dont feel like I have anywhere else to turn.
    No joke guys, I havent been this low for a long long time.
    Yes I am taking my medication, but they just dont cut it at the moment.
  13. raycam01_au

    raycam01_au Sir Ray!

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    good thread
    my older Bro has suffered from depression for years, sometimes we would go without months hearing from him, very hard on us all himself included, any capacity to help out im in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:freaky
  14. Phil_Fong

    Phil_Fong Over Regulated Supporter

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  15. gavo

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  16. Rev Tiny

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    mate you have my number dont ever be to proud to ring even just to shoot the shyte

    i have lived with the dog most of my life so i know how hard it is to talk
  17. Lee Gunn

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    he comes and goes - I like it when he's gone but I know when he's coming
  18. BigFella44

    BigFella44 Been here awhile

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    wow, thanks guys for your P.M's.

    This place is awesome, give the shout and they come from miles away!
    Some I have never spoken to before, and thats what makes ADV RIDER the place it is, the comradery and compassion is overwhelming.

    Me, I'll bounce back after time.
    Those bloody dark clouds just seem to hang around way longer then they used to. And they're getting harder to shake.
    As a couple of you lot pointed out in your P.M's, there is always some body not so well off!

    And that made me remember a plaque that used to hang on the back of my old Grand Mothers kitchen door,

    "I had no shoes and often complained,,,,,
    Until I met a man who had no feet,,,,,,!"



    So I guess all I need to do is pick up my balls, throw them over my shoulder and soldier on,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,!


    Thanks heaps guys, I truly appreciate your comments.
  19. BigFella44

    BigFella44 Been here awhile

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    thanks Tiny, it's not a case of being too proud to ask for help!
    It's more a case of staying tear-less long enough to have a bloody chat! (if you get my drift)

    I suppose thats why it's getting harder, I dont ask until it's nearly too late,,,,,,,,.
    Always been the same really, would rather fix it myself than ask for help.

    But some times,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.
  20. BigFella44

    BigFella44 Been here awhile

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    Hey Lee,
    Your awesome chick, can I use your words of wisdom in my sign line?


    "he comes and goes - I like it when he's gone but I know when he's coming"