Who went 1290 to 790? Talk to me.

Discussion in 'Parallel World (790/890)' started by Roadhawg011, Oct 15, 2019.

  1. Roadhawg011

    Roadhawg011 Been here awhile

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    I LOVED my 1190R. Bought a 1290R and I love it onroad but for some reason I have never felt quite as comfortable with it Offroad as I did the 1190.

    Very seriously considering a 790R though. I know I’ll miss the stupid power of the big girl, but the 790s lightness really appeals to me.

    How are the 790s weaknesses, Highway, luggage etc?
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  2. gsuks

    gsuks Long timer

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    my normal bike is a 1290saS.
    but i have been on a loaner
    790 adv Standard for about 30 days (7 days on a 790 adv Standard with the R screen)


    i love it!!

    most of my riding is comuting to various work locations within a 100km radius in The Netherlands
    so basically a mix of provincial roads, Motorways and inner city roads

    I have to tell you it's a very nippy bike,
    feels like it's only 120 kg and great for chucking round corners.
    my motor way cruising speed is usually 130-140 kmph
    obviously a little less wind protection than the 1290saS
    but I can live with that.
    and sure you have to change gear more often but you get used to that
    keep the revs above 4k and it does alright
    at 6k it wakes up and really shifts

    great in the city.

    fuel economy is amazing!!


    the R screen is terrible.
    quick shifter is pretty cool.

    normal screen not bad at all.

    the lack of weight and height is great when getting on the bike or moving in and out of my shed or other tight parking spaces.

    I have got to a point that I will probably trade my 1290saS in for a 790
    not sure standard or the R
    suspension on the R really appeals to me,
    the height doesn't

    also I would like to know how the R is on the motorway at higher speeds (150-170 kmph) with road tyres

    anyway let's see what the bike show in Milan brings early november!!
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  3. Roadhawg011

    Roadhawg011 Been here awhile

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    You’re slowly convincing me:lol3
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    gsuks Long timer

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    never go Off-road,
    but maybe I will do some light stuff on the 790
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    coloktmGS Been here awhile

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    I have both, they each have a place but the 790 is more competent in more places. Still nothing like 160hp...
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  6. Sfcootz

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    I'm coming from less powerful bikes but I'm really happy on the freeway with this thing. I rarely use its sixth gear and I cruise at warp speed most of the time.

    Luggage? I have a set of Andy Straps Avduro bags and racks.

    Weaknesses? I might still be too smitten with my bike to think of any. Some folks don't care for the cable clutch. I've had a friends who are more mechanically inclined do some mods to the pipes and eliminate the cat. I've left mine stock. 8900 miles in and I am still delighted.
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  7. Roadhawg011

    Roadhawg011 Been here awhile

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    That's the bloody problem. Power corrupts.

    BUT, after riding the 790 and getting back on my SAR I realise how little throttle I use 90% of the time.
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    Bumpaman Been here awhile Supporter

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    Two different bikes with different personalities. I have had a 1290 SA since 2016 and am currently on the AZBDR with a 790 ADV R. I wondered the same thing and have found that the 790 is a great bike on and off road, but does not give the thrill that 160 ponies gives. Each are capable of doing the job of the other one, but in my mind don’t replace each other. Keep both if you can!!! Just my humble opinion
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  9. Roadhawg011

    Roadhawg011 Been here awhile

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    Both isn't an option unfortunately. Will be way too much money.
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    I came from a 1290 SAR to the 790r. Never looked back. I do a lot of highway to get to off road stuff and the 790r is just fine on the highway. Way way better off road. The bike is a lot lighter and the low style tanks make if feel even more nimble. The suspension is much better. Fuel economy is fantastic so the fuel range of the bike is outstanding. Downsides of the 790? The wind screen is not good and I am waiting for a good replacement. Top contender so far is the Rade Garage which is not out yet. A lot of rear shocks have been failing. Mine is OK so far. Some TFT displays have been getting condensation inside. So far mine is OK. No center stand although you can add one. Stock skid plate is very thin and needs replacing for serious off road. I would only prefer the 1290 if I was doing mostly pavement touring two-up. I currently own the 790r and a Ducati Hypermotard 950 SP, but if I could only have one bike it would be the KTM. Much more versatile. I considered getting the new KTM 690 enduro but passed as I wanted a better bike for the highway. So yeah I don't really miss the 1290. It was just too heavy for me to ride off road. I always worried about dumping it and not being able to pick it up. I did drop it in some snow ( yeah that was really stupid!) and barely was able to lift it and was worried I would hurt my back. That kind of sealed my decision to get the 790r:)

    BTW I had a KTM 1290 Superduke R before the 1290r and also had a Ducati Panigale V4s, so while the 1290 SAR has a lot of power, it felt pretty tame compared to those two bikes! I ended up trading the Panigale for the Hypermotard because the Panigale was going to get me in big trouble with the law sooner or later and insurance was insane too.
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    I will agree on the windscreen. I'm 5'7" on a good day and have yet to find an agreeable position for it.
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    Roadhawg011 Been here awhile

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    Going to have a look tomorrow. 2019 7000kms
    Basically straight swap for my 2018 1290 SAR with ~13000kms on.
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    At 6' height with a 32.5 inseam I find the stock windscreen (S model, not R) on the 790 just fine in the low position. No buffeting at any speed I've taken the bike.

    The 790 replaced a GS and a DR 650.
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    Omg. Stop stalking me! We have identical bike tastes. :rofl

    my r1150gs is being given to @SafetyThird . I still have not one but two dr650s. I just love a Thumper. I also have an s model.
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    Yeah, and we only live 25ish miles apart, too :lol2

    There was too much overlap between the DR650 and the 790. The DR might be easier to pick up but the 790 will let me pass on mountain passes loaded with camping gear. That wasn't always doable with the DR. My GS was a '13 wethead. It got traded in on the KTM.
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    I feel you. Since bikes are my only means of transportation I just feel better having two or more. Plus I when I have out of town Moto guests we can ride essentially identical bikes. Twinsies!
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  17. Roadhawg011

    Roadhawg011 Been here awhile

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    Now I’m wondering about the details.
    Pipe:I need more noise. Love the sound of my 1290 with the Superduke pipe. Can you get an acceptable noise out the 790 without removing the CAT?
    Racks: I love my Monsoon3 bags from Enduristan. Even got them to work without a rack on the big bike, I assume I’ll need racks in the 790.

    We don’t have access to Mosko or most of the other luggage setups here.
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  18. a.c.e.

    a.c.e. U Mud, Bro?

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    Is it the first set of rubber?! If yes, it was ridden with a throttle limiter?! My rear Karoo was done @ 4k km.
    Pipe: Wing, Arrow, Akra etc. without dB-killer will be fine. More? Decat...
    Racks: Is selling the Monsoon and going for Blizzard an option? Those Blizzard are like "made for 790 Adventure", really perfect fit /wo rack.
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    Roadhawg011 Been here awhile

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    Thanks.

    On the bags, that means going from 2x30L down to 2x12L (for the L size....2x17L for the XL). Found some local guys making some fairly skinny racks though:
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  20. a.c.e.

    a.c.e. U Mud, Bro?

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    Of course, just carry less junk/weight -> your 790 shall stay nimble and not get packed up to 1290 weight :D
    (Can't see the pictures)
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